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Well, this season started with the show in May of 1966. By episode 12, we're into either January or February of 1967.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Where did you got those dates !?

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According to wikipedia, the first episode of the season took place on the Labor Day weekend of 1966. We've seen the office celebrate Thanksgiving and Christmas since then, and according to Pete in one episode, Jaguar was holding its pitch meetings in January. Since that has also come and past, it's reasonable to assume we're in late January, early to mid February on this show.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

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"The Phantom".

That was it?

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Probably a stupid question, but mostly to be sure:

Will there be a sixth season ?

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Yes, plus a seventh.

I'll post my thoughts on the finale tomorrow.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Usually I would consider this a bad thing, but I've been pleased with this season, the show hasn't degraded as much as other shows like it have done so, they've managed to stretch it a decent length without ruining it............I think you'd disagree with me

Even though, quite frankly, TWO SEASONS without Peggy ? Holy...........shit...........

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I think you're right. Now, onto....

the final rundown!




SPOILERS


I thought this was a poor finale, to what turned out to be a disappointing season of Mad Men.

- I'll start by talking about Pete's story line, and his whole arc this season. Pete can not catch a break. He's rejected by women at almost every turn, and gets his ass handed to him by men much older than him. But let's talk about his relationship with Rory Gilmore. I did not buy this relationship for a second, nor why Pete became so obsessed with her. Part of it is Bledel as an actress. She looks and sounds way too young to be a sexy mistress, and I thought the two had no real chemistry together. He seems to think they are kindred spirits, but he barely knows her, and the show gives us almost nothing to latch onto. And the fact that they had her take electric shop therapy which wiped out her memories of him was just stupid. In the end, Pete is left broken, while his oblivious wife has agreed to give him the Manhattan apartment he has no use for.

- Peggy returns! Okay, this was a genuine surprise, but I think it was a mistake to bring her back. She just left the company, and was triumphant as she walked into the elevator. Actually, they should have saved her quitting for the finale. Anyways, I think it spoils the impact seeing her so soon. I have a feeling they will try to keep her in on the plot lines, but is there any real reason to keep up with Peggy? She no longer works at the company, so she's no longer relevant.

- Also, is she still with her boyfriend?

- Lane leaves Joan some cash. Don wonders why. Why, Don? I'll give you two reasons:



- Speaking of Don, we get some heavy handed story of him getting a toothache. You see, the tooth represents Don's guilt in Lane killing himself. He can ignore the pain, but that doesn't change the situation. To paraphrase Ralph Wiggum in an episode of the Simpsons that parodied "The Departed"...



"The tooth represents obviousness!".

- Don is chewed out by Lane's wife for giving her husband ambition. Little does she know his ambition was the least of her worries.

- Megan hangs out with her hot blonde friend. Was it just me, or was anyone (by which I mean you, feliciano), getting a lesbian vibe from her? Anyway, I have nothing more to add. She was just hot.

- Speaking of Megan, what a miserably boring character. I'm sorry, I will never be on Team Megan. Every scene she's in with Don seems to boil down to the same thing.

Megan: Don, I wanna act!
Don: Ugh....really?
Megan: Why won't you support me?!
Don:....fine(sigh)

Much of my dislike of this season comes from my dislike of her, and her being shoved down our throats. Speaking of things being shoved down throats...

- Megan's slutty mom returns. What a cold bitch! While she's basically right about Megan, she didn't have to insult her. Especially when she is a guest in their home.

- Roger gets pretty much what he wants in this episode, and for the season. He ends up on top. In more ways than one!



- Actually, there seemed to be a lot of bed action this episode.

- Ginsberg and Stan make an appearance. While I wasn't initially on board with Ginsberg, I feel these two characters at least tend to add some light moments to what is becoming a really dour series.

- The season ends with Don, sitting in some bar, having a drink. As a woman approaches him and asks if he's alone, the episode abruptly cuts before we get an answer.

So, that's it. That's the end of the season. If the idea that Don will go back to his skirt chasing ways is supposed to excite us, for me, it doesn't, because that would undo whatever character development they've made with him. This hasn't been an outright bad season, but this season overall left me cold.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

T3CII !

I did not abandoned thou !

Hectic last weeks of college, finally managed to see the season finale.

And what a goddamn dissapointment



I'll say, it's probably not the most memorable season of Mad Men, and although I did like it (again, maybe due to the poisonous effect of The Walking Dead) I will say that this finale was just all sorts of wrong.



Well, he won't certainly have to take a long-ass train to go to work

I think this show relies too much on "Star Power", I can't see any other reason for keeping Betty as a recurrent character, other than being "January Jones", I think the same was done with Alexis Bledel, she's a known quantity, and I suspect that the producers might've thought she would've looked good next to Vincent "Baby Face" Kartheiser.

However, the entire sub-plot left us with nothing more than a constant emasculation of Pete, which once again, led nowhere, we saw no effects on his character after consistently getting rejected and pummeled to the ground, in the end, he was still same ol' same ol' Slimy Pete !

Oh, and the electric shop therapy ? Never would've thought it of Weiner and co. to defy science in such a dumb way !



I don't know man, I have the feeling that this show is going to get all "The Wire Season Four" on us, jumping all over the place, however, unlike The Wire, Mad Men just isn't that kind of show.



WE GET IT PEOPLE, DON SOMATIZES HIS PSYCHOLOGICAL ISSUES !

This can't possibly be the only way to write Don Draper anymore !



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You know, we can criticize Jessica Paré's acting for all it's worth.......which isn't a lot

But right now, the hottest thing on Mad Men, is this:

http://sunnyside.mx/blog/wp-content/upl ... are-22.jpg

Certainly NOT a blonde with pyramid tits





Two issues with Megan:

- Too much of her.

- Jessica Paré is not at the level of the rest of the cast.

As for her character, I like some things about her, she's very young, and very jealous of Don's reputation, she has very different ambitions than those of Don's, and she reveals interesting bits about Don's personality, like the scene at the theater, I would've never thought Don had strong feelings about his line of work for example.

She is also a natural for advertising, something we have never seen on the show, think about it, not even Peggy ! Which creates conflict because this is clearly a talent Don saw in her !



I think she's too much of a stereotype for me to take her seriously, really ? The stoic, independent, free-loving french lady with black gloves who smokes ?

Only thing missing was the damn cigar filter !



Oh Ginsberg.....................what an asshole you are !

If I was Don I think I would've fired him long time ago.



As I said, I liked this season, but nothing really interesting happened to make it seem like a FINALE, most of what happened made us look back on the entire season........mostly at the inadequately resolved loose ends and the crappy resolutions.

For what it's worth, I hope the next season is more focused, with less Megan perhaps.

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FELICIANO!



Maybe, but The Wire's scope is so large that it's sort of necessary. Mad Men is mostly confined to the office.

By the way, have you finished season 4 of The Wire yet?



Too much mystery surrounded the character initially, but we know everything we need to know about him, and so I'm not sure there's much left to him. But he's not a very consistent character. He can be really cold and distant, yet I think he's fundamentally a decent person. Which is why I would find him going back to chasing skirts to be out of character. Maybe he was like that once before, but where he is now, it wouldn't ring true to me.

I think it was in season 4 that he had a catharsis. This is one of the things that makes me think the series shouldn't have been more than five seasons long. We have two more seasons to go, I think they really need to shake things up.



I will take the blonde with pyramid tits over her any day:

http://www.mastcelebs.net/upload/emily_foxler_1.jpg



Yep, that's basically it. I mean, she was such a minor character in season 4, then they decided to have Don marry her, so she was thrust into the spotlight this season. Too much of her too soon.



But she's an actress now, so that's pretty much moot.



I'm glad I'm at least not alone in my dislike of the finale, and the overall feeling I've seen on line is one of disappointment. Although I've see some people call this the best season of the series, which baffles me.

Oh well, we do have one other show to look forward to....

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Exactly !

And yes ! But right before I was going to post my thoughts, some friends called me out for drinks, next thing after this post is to let you know just what I thought of such an amazing season !



I think the show has changed, maybe to appeal newer audiences by making Don more sympathetic, I mean really, one of my first thoughts about the first season of Mad Men was how the "amoral" description was the only thing all characters shared in common with each other.

Now ? It's not exactly bad, but it's a tonal shift, now Don just ponders about everything and is always trying to do the right thing, which isn't bad, but it comes without reason, if this was First Season Don, he wouldn't have batted an eyelash at Joan selling herself at Jaguar.



No show should be more than five seasons long, as they are, Weiner and co. are just pushing too hard, I really really hope it doesn't backfire on them !



Well she didn't look that nice in the episode !



Not necessarily !

Megan: *Kisses Don on the cheek* what are you doing ?

Don: *Looking frustrated* Trying to find a pitch to sell these goddamn suitcases.

Megan: What about ... *gives incredible idea Peggy, Don, Stan, Ginsberg and Ginsberg's dad could've never thought of*

Don: Y U STILL ACTING !?



I think it's because the conflict this season was written as more "exteriorized", Mad Men has always been about awkward silences, surprised faces, unsaid threats, and everything else that is much more implied, rather than said directly. In my opinion, there was much more of the latter, like the three or four rounds of "Megan VS Don", Pete's fighting and subsequent emasculation, Joan's separation, etc.





Can't wait !

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Particularly a show like Mad Men. There is just so little actual plot in these episodes, it's mostly about...



...and they have to do that over 13 episodes. So even though the show is shorter than most network programs (it's hard to believe Lost's first seasons consisted of 20+ episodes), they are now forced to stretch the story out. And advertising really isn't a world that lends itself to gripping television.

Also, I'm wondering if maybe you should be the one to do these rundowns. You make better points than I do.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

For what it's worth, it has a large fanbase, can't really see why they would need to impress them in any other way, and by this point, how many newcomers can you get ?



Aw, thank you !

Maybe I could open up Breaking Bad, but I get to see the show later, so that's an issue if you want to talk about it right away.

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Season 6 promo pics

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Betty..........AND PEGGY are still in ?

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Well, Peggy isn't too surprising since after she left, she still returned for another episode or two. But I don't see any real reason for both her and Betty still being in this as cast regulars. I mean, they haven't even brought Sal back for a cameo, and I thought that was due to the show sticking to its realism? That they would only bring a character back if it served the story?

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

January Jones is deffinitely to provide star power to the show, I guess Peggy is just a must of the series.

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Can you feel it? It's that time again. It's that time for an all new and improved, Mad Men

t3cii rundown!!!!!!




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- The show returns with Don and Megan on vacation in Hawaii. And with some rather strange editing choices. I'm talking about the whole doorman having a heart attack/whatever. The scene was oddly edited.

- Anyway, Megan is still very much an integral part of the show's plot (unfortunately), but I will say this: Megan has a nice rack. If the show were to just have her going about her business, while wearing a bikini, her scenes might be more tolerable.


"Why, that's not sexist at all"

- Megan has found success working as an actress on some soap opera. This is good news for the audience, as we won't have to be subjected to another scene along the lines of this:

Don: What's the matter?
Megan: I'm not happy! I want to be an actress!
Don: Fine (sigh)

End scene.

- Betty is back, for some inexplicable reason, this time trying to encourage some girl who I don't know to be a violin player. She visits some sketchy downtown neighborhood, and finds a bunch of squatters, led by some douche in a leather jacket. I actually really hate this era of the sixties, because it was filled with all of these anti establishment types who would all later sellout and become the things they supposedly hated. There is a certain sense of self entitlement that the youth of today have, and I think it can be traced back to the babyboomer generation. To quote Kent Brockman, "What a shrill and pointless decade."

- Sally is back. Now while she has been considered by many fans, I think, to be a likeable character (if only because Sally is her mother), she now appears to be somewhat of an asshole. Also known as a teenager.

- I think the show's setting is now 1966 or 67', and this allows us to see some truly ugly fashion choices, most notibly on the men. Don, being of a certain age, will probably not give in to the fads of the day, but the same can't be said of the other office members:


Taste the mustache. Taste it!


Beard inspired by Ted Kaczynski

And my personal favorite


I call this look "Pussy Kryptonite".

- Our favorite scumbag Pete returns, and I have to admit, I kind of enjoyed him in this episode, mostly because of his constant douche-baggery.

- Peggy also returns. I hope at some point she goes back to the company, because I see no real reason for her to still be in this series. And I say that having actually enjoyed all of her scenes in this episode. I think Moss is a great actress. But since she is not directly tied to what is going on at SCDP, I still have to wonder why she is here?

- Roger is seeing a pychiatrist. How frustrating must that be for the shrink? You know that Roger just needs someone to sit back, laugh at the odd joke, and sit in admiration of him.

- His mother dies, and they hold maybe one of the worst wakes I have seen. Don makes an appearance. And procedes to vomit all over the place. What is it with this show and vomiting?

- Later, Betty dyes her hair (for some reason), only to look a lot like her husband's mother. Awkward.


I call this look "Penis Kryptonite."

- Oh, and what was up with Betty's sex talk with Henry? I mean, talk about some kinky shit.

- Don broods a lot in this episode. I mean, Don is always brooding, but he's never outright pitched a suicide ad campaign, before. At least Stan liked it. Speaking of...

- Stan is awesome. I didn't like him innitially when he was first introduced, but I feel like you need guys like him and Ginsberg on the show if only to keep that sort of male locker room feeling that has been missing since the early seasons.

- So Don has gone back to his womanizing ways, this time with Linda Cardellini (who I totally didn't recognize). I'm of two minds on this. On one hand, a happy Don is a boring Don. On the other hand, do we really want to go back to seeing Don womanzing again? Been there, done that.

I think some fans don't like these over sized episodes, but I like it because stuff actually happened. What did you guys think? Either way, it's still good to have the show back. Here's hoping we get a good season!

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

I totally agree with everything you said, t3cii.

I enjoyed this season premiere more than I did all of the last season in its entirety. It was funny and even poignant in parts. I liked Peggy in the other agency. I was afraid that the show would lose focus if we saw her being away, but no, it was actually quite compelling especially given how far she has gotten as a character.

Don was interesting to watch, but again, I dunno how to take bed-hopping Don this time around. Like you said, a happy Don is boring, but can't we have more of him than just an adulterer? And again, there just doesn't feel like much would be at stake here, in fact with his kids spending most of their time with Betty, it strikes me like he has now completely left them to her. And his marriage to Megan feels like a dramatic dud, so I can't quite tell what the writers are going for this time.

I have the feeling that this season will deal with mortality. It's now becoming more than obvious that Don is getting old and that everyone will begin to lose people. I have the feeling that we will see someone major and important die this season.

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