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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:48 pm 
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Never in a million years would I've thought something like Drive Angry would be considered awesome by THREE people in this forum.

I give up then, I'll see it.

Would it help if I chimed in and say it isn't all that great?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm 
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Never in a million years would I've thought something like Drive Angry would be considered awesome by THREE people in this forum.

I give up then, I'll see it.

Would it help if I chimed in and say it isn't all that great?


What exactly would you be helping with :lol: ?

I gotta see it by myself to give final judgement, which I'll probably do so in a day or two.

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feliciano182 wrote:
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feliciano182 wrote:
Never in a million years would I've thought something like Drive Angry would be considered awesome by THREE people in this forum.

I give up then, I'll see it.

Would it help if I chimed in and say it isn't all that great?


What exactly would you be helping with :lol: ?

I gotta see it by myself to give final judgement, which I'll probably do so in a day or two.


Well...

I don't want you watching a movie I don't like. So there.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:00 pm 
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Well...

I don't want you watching a movie I don't like. So there.


Why thank you :D !

But it's okay, worst-case-scenario I'm seeing Nicholas Cage in a lead role (which is always entertaining) and I get to drool over Amber Heard, not a bad way to spend hour and a half in my opinion !

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Jesus, is this the Nicolas Cage thread or what?
Watched this last night, thought it was brilliant.

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Jesus, is this the Nicolas Cage thread or what?
Watched this last night, thought it was brilliant.


SMUTTY SAW A MOVIE !!!

I think that one's by Scorcese right ?

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Jesus, is this the Nicolas Cage thread or what?
Watched this last night, thought it was brilliant.


SMUTTY SAW A MOVIE !!!

I think that one's by Scorcese right ?


Yeah it is, which is why I decided to watch it

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Yeah it is, which is why I decided to watch it


I've heard it's good from everyone I ask about it, though curiously it never gets catalogued among Scorcese's bests.

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More than that, it's a Schrader collaboration, which are markedly different from the rest of Scorsese's work.

The rest are Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and The Last Temptation of Christ.

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it was tying it into the rape-revenge stories and making light of a verys erious sub-genre that kind of offended me.


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But it's okay, worst-case-scenario I'm seeing Nicholas Cage in a lead role


Yeah, I would say that seeing Nic Cage in a movie is a worst-case-scenario.

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But it's okay, worst-case-scenario I'm seeing Nicholas Cage in a lead role


Yeah, I would say that seeing Nic Cage in a movie is a worst-case-scenario.

You should see Spirit of Vengeance.

It's wicked sick, yo.

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Yeah, I would say that seeing Nic Cage in a movie is a worst-case-scenario.


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Of course you would

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Yeah, I would say that seeing Nic Cage in a movie is a worst-case-scenario.


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Of course you would


Who else but Brooklyn?

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It's a shame that some folks deny themselves the occasional good film because 'Nicholas Cage is shit.'

He has some seriously good acting chops, but he unfortunately fuels his massive ego by starring in mostly hideously overblown Hollywood 'vehicles'.

And by vehicles, I mean dual-purpose star-masturbation rituals/studio tax write-offs.

Always liked his turn as a young asshole in Coppola's 1983 noir/art film Rumble Fish.

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It's a shame that some folks deny themselves the occasional good film because 'Nicholas Cage is shit.'


I have never avoided a film simply because of Nic Cage, but he has ruined movies I felt could have been better

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
Mister Pain wrote:
It's a shame that some folks deny themselves the occasional good film because 'Nicholas Cage is shit.'


I have never avoided a film simply because of Nic Cage, but he has ruined movies I felt could have been better

Who hasn't?

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
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It's a shame that some folks deny themselves the occasional good film because 'Nicholas Cage is shit.'


I have never avoided a film simply because of Nic Cage, but he has ruined movies I felt could have been better

Who hasn't?


Uh, Clint Eastwood.
No seriously, what does this even mean?

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7/10

It got more interesting as it progressed.
Its hardly "fun" and not a typical Cage vehicle, but its very interesting.
Its a little more complex than I thought it'd be.
Which is good. Its a murder/conspiracy flick where the details matter.
Not bad, but nothing special either.

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Snake Eyes... Brian De Palma not dropping the ball!
...unlike the appalling mess he made of The Black Dahlia, which should have been an impossible one to fuck up so royally.

Some great camera work in this as I recall, and the Cage/Sinise chemistry is really good.

I just saw Clint Eastwood's J. Edgar .

A sympathetic telling of an unsympathetic character, beautifully styled, wonderful turn from Leonardo DiCaprio...
It managed to show the man's life and not dodge the monster he became, and keep him human at the same time. Who is this man and how did he become what he became? seems to be the mission statement.

But,

having said that, it suffers from that dead-in-the-water curse that 90% of biopics die from. Predictable structure, overly long, lumbering sentimentality, and the Forrest Gump syndrome: fetishistic reconstruction of history doing battle frame-by-frame with a staged and sheen-ed Hollywood veneer. This film, the Ray Charles biopic, the Johnny Cash one... they all share the exact same template, and it is borrowed 100% from the budget tele-movies of the 70's and 80's.

In fact, some of those productions are more endearing, because they lack the budgets or duration to fully tell the story, and the result is less film-as-history, less hindered by schmaltz and fake gravitas. I prefer the made-for-tv version of The Beach Boys story to Walk The Line.
And I would prefer a good documentary on Hoover to this film, even while there is much to admire in it. It lacked... teeth. As if Eastwood was too scared to really lay into one of his parent's generational heroes. Sure he points out the man's lies, his arrogance, paranoia, viciousness. But it's kinda apologetic. A little too humanising.

Also, it features a Richard Nixon action hero! Yup, he is handsome and debonair. Zack Snyder got it much more right than Eastwood. He wasn't afraid to go for the ugly.

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Snake Eyes... Brian De Palma not dropping the ball!
...unlike the appalling mess he made of The Black Dahlia, which should have been an impossible one to fuck up so royally.

Goddamn what a terrible movie. Had to watch L.A. Confidential to rub the crap from my eyes.


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