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Lethal Weapon isn't overrated in the slightest.


If you've seen one buddy-cop movie, you've seen them all.

I don't believe Mel Gibson and Danny Glover are the hot shit everyone likes to believe they are.

Are they funny ? Sure, do they work well together ? Sure.

9.8/10 ?

Drugs are involved.

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The thing is that "Lethal Weapon" was innovative in some ways for the kind of movie it is. So obviously everything afterward just followed suit. In retrospect, it won't seem that innovative because you've seen the cliches over and over again.

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Lethal Weapon 2 (Director's Cut)- 9/10
Lethal Weapon 3 (Director's Cut)- 8/10
Lethal Weapon 4 (Uncut)- 7.5/10

Something is missing from the first one, thats just... entirely absent from the sequels.
I blame it on the excessive action.
It feels by #2 like they're implicitly playing catch up with the Die Hards
The action in the first one, was natural.
It was a product of the plot.
But in the sequels, they feel like set pieces.

Like they said
"In this one, we need a house on stilts so we can have a scene where we can pull it down. Cool right?"
or
"What if there was a fight on a mover's truck inside a trailer they're moving?"

However, the bomb on the toilet, thats a great example of something that flowed naturally into the plot.
It was a bit preposterous, but it flowed.
The other stuff sticks out like sore thumbs to me.
Not to say I don't enjoy all of them.
And the core dynamic between Riggs and Murtaugh is ALWAYS entertaining,
but the sequels feel like just solid action movies.
Just.

They all are fun, and they all have their moments, but seriously the first is untouchable.

And I agree with Oscar 100%.
He hit the nail on the head.

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AvatarIII wrote:
What's white? I forget.

Homo-eroticism.

Homo-erotic off-white trademarked by the Godziller estate the year of our lord 2011 (or 10) A.D.


The year or our lord ____ A.D. is kind of redundant, don't you think?

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The thing is that "Lethal Weapon" was innovative in some ways for the kind of movie it is. So obviously everything afterward just followed suit. In retrospect, it won't seem that innovative because you've seen the cliches over and over again.


I thought about this as well, but I don't think it stands as well to the test of time.

I mean, really ? What the hell is so engaging about a couple of cops being buffoons ?

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What's white? I forget.

Homo-eroticism.

Homo-erotic off-white trademarked by the Godziller estate the year of our lord 2011 (or 10) A.D.


The year or our lord ____ A.D. is kind of redundant, don't you think?

Well, Christianity's kind of redundant, so it fits.

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What's white? I forget.

Homo-eroticism.

Homo-erotic off-white trademarked by the Godziller estate the year of our lord 2011 (or 10) A.D.


The year or our lord ____ A.D. is kind of redundant, don't you think?

Well, Christianity's kind of redundant, so it fits.


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TheMovieDude wrote:
The thing is that "Lethal Weapon" was innovative in some ways for the kind of movie it is. So obviously everything afterward just followed suit. In retrospect, it won't seem that innovative because you've seen the cliches over and over again.


I thought about this as well, but I don't think it stands as well to the test of time.

I mean, really ? What the hell is so engaging about a couple of cops being buffoons ?


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feliciano182 wrote:
TheMovieDude wrote:
The thing is that "Lethal Weapon" was innovative in some ways for the kind of movie it is. So obviously everything afterward just followed suit. In retrospect, it won't seem that innovative because you've seen the cliches over and over again.


I thought about this as well, but I don't think it stands as well to the test of time.

I mean, really ? What the hell is so engaging about a couple of cops being buffoons ?


HERESY! KILL THE NON BELIEVER!


You're just bitter genocidal videogamer, you have no veto power :) !

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feliciano182 wrote:
TheMovieDude wrote:
The thing is that "Lethal Weapon" was innovative in some ways for the kind of movie it is. So obviously everything afterward just followed suit. In retrospect, it won't seem that innovative because you've seen the cliches over and over again.


I thought about this as well, but I don't think it stands as well to the test of time.

I mean, really ? What the hell is so engaging about a couple of cops being buffoons ?

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Of course you would.

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feliciano182 wrote:
TheMovieDude wrote:
The thing is that "Lethal Weapon" was innovative in some ways for the kind of movie it is. So obviously everything afterward just followed suit. In retrospect, it won't seem that innovative because you've seen the cliches over and over again.


I thought about this as well, but I don't think it stands as well to the test of time.

I mean, really ? What the hell is so engaging about a couple of cops being buffoons ?


that might be what it became, but the first one was pretty powerful, Riggs was not being a buffoon, he was suicidal and having a nervous breakdown, Murtaugh was not being a buffoon, he was just too old for that kind of shit.

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feliciano182 wrote:
TheMovieDude wrote:
The thing is that "Lethal Weapon" was innovative in some ways for the kind of movie it is. So obviously everything afterward just followed suit. In retrospect, it won't seem that innovative because you've seen the cliches over and over again.


I thought about this as well, but I don't think it stands as well to the test of time.

I mean, really ? What the hell is so engaging about a couple of cops being buffoons ?


that might be what it became, but the first one was pretty powerful, Riggs was not being a buffoon, he was suicidal and having a nervous breakdown, Murtaugh was not being a buffoon, he was just too old for that kind of shit.

Thank you. It was character motivated.
And the character interaction is what sold it.
Pure classic.

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that might be what it became, but the first one was pretty powerful, Riggs was not being a buffoon, he was suicidal and having a nervous breakdown, Murtaugh was not being a buffoon, he was just too old for that kind of shit.


I don't know if one year could be considered a long time ago, but that's about the last time I saw it, as I've been stating, I wasn't impressed, but neither can't I remember enough of the movie to go at great lengths on this discussion, which actually should say worse things about it :lol:

Also Nitey, c'maaaan, you can defend your own movies.

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that might be what it became, but the first one was pretty powerful, Riggs was not being a buffoon, he was suicidal and having a nervous breakdown, Murtaugh was not being a buffoon, he was just too old for that kind of shit.


I don't know if one year could be considered a long time ago, but that's about the last time I saw it, as I've been stating, I wasn't impressed, but neither can't I remember enough of the movie to go at great lengths on this discussion, which actually should say worse things about it :lol:

Also Nitey, c'maaaan, you can defend your own movies.


are you sure you watched the 1st one and not the 3rd or 4th one?

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that might be what it became, but the first one was pretty powerful, Riggs was not being a buffoon, he was suicidal and having a nervous breakdown, Murtaugh was not being a buffoon, he was just too old for that kind of shit.


I don't know if one year could be considered a long time ago, but that's about the last time I saw it, as I've been stating, I wasn't impressed, but neither can't I remember enough of the movie to go at great lengths on this discussion, which actually should say worse things about it :lol:

Also Nitey, c'maaaan, you can defend your own movies.


are you sure you watched the 1st one and not the 3rd or 4th one?


Lethal Weapon

The very first one

And I believe it is heavily overrated, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang should be what Shane Black should be more proud of.

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That or Predator. :D

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That or Predator. :D


:o !!!

He wrote Predator !?

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feliciano182 wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:
that might be what it became, but the first one was pretty powerful, Riggs was not being a buffoon, he was suicidal and having a nervous breakdown, Murtaugh was not being a buffoon, he was just too old for that kind of shit.


I don't know if one year could be considered a long time ago, but that's about the last time I saw it, as I've been stating, I wasn't impressed, but neither can't I remember enough of the movie to go at great lengths on this discussion, which actually should say worse things about it :lol:

Also Nitey, c'maaaan, you can defend your own movies.

Well, I do, I just lose objectivity in those long posts that seem to ramble on and on and on and on...
And then someone comes up behind me and says it in like two sentences.

I think what I love about Lethal Weapon is the chemistry.
Not just between Glover and Gibson, but through the whole movie.

For example, Cop-Out.
Morgan and Willis' chemistry was fine. But the humor and the action didn't gel.
And the story was ludicrous.

Lethal Weapon balances everything in decent parts.
The humor fits with the action, the action fits with the story.
And the story isn't bad at all either.
And then on top of this decent standard cop thriller, you have this amazing dynamic between the two leads.
You see these guys develop as characters, and if you can at all invest yourself in their stories, you'll really get into it and be able to appreciate the way they grow and how its all resolved.
And that elevates it above your run of the mill dreck.
Its a character driven movie. Which in a genre that usually barely follows proper procedure (i.e. failing to create engaging character for sake of bigger gun fights), Lethal Weapon manages to stay just as fun and entertaining as it was back then. Its a five star flick in my book.

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