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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:25 am 
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Yes, I finally got around to seeing this one.

It's a very nice companion piece to Se7en, but I think I still prefer that movie. Though Fincher did an otherwise fantastic job of adapting the story and showing the process of time, the constant time jumps bugged me a little bit. It comes with the territory, I grant you, but the first half and the second half still feel like very different films.

Still, this is another superbly acted, wonderfully written, and masterfully directed cinematic meditation on the nature of evil. That it was based on unsolved murders that really did happen makes it even more powerful.

Overall, I quite agree that it's a great film, though I don't know if I'd have liked it quite as much without Se7en already under my belt.

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Eastern Promises, I heard it was the follow up to History of Violence, so I actually started watching expecting a sequel, :D what I got was much better, since Eastern Promises is pretty much to British organised crime what HoV is to American Organized crime, and I loved it. seriously i love every Cronenburg movie I have ever watched,

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Eastern Promises, I heard it was the follow up to History of Violence, so I actually started watching expecting a sequel, :D what I got was much better, since Eastern Promises is pretty much to British organised crime what HoV is to American Organized crime, and I loved it. seriously i love every Cronenburg movie I have ever watched,


By follow up I think they mean Cronenburg's directorial follow up. I've never seen it, although apparently there is going to be a sequel.

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Eastern Promises, I heard it was the follow up to History of Violence, so I actually started watching expecting a sequel, :D what I got was much better, since Eastern Promises is pretty much to British organised crime what HoV is to American Organized crime, and I loved it. seriously i love every Cronenburg movie I have ever watched,


By follow up I think they mean Cronenburg's directorial follow up. I've never seen it, although apparently there is going to be a sequel.


it also stars Viggo Mortensen,

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Eastern Promises, I heard it was the follow up to History of Violence, so I actually started watching expecting a sequel, :D what I got was much better, since Eastern Promises is pretty much to British organised crime what HoV is to American Organized crime, and I loved it. seriously i love every Cronenburg movie I have ever watched,


By follow up I think they mean Cronenburg's directorial follow up. I've never seen it, although apparently there is going to be a sequel.


it also stars Viggo Mortensen,


Eastern promises was whack. I saw viggo's dick, and even that couldn't save the movie for me, so you know it was whack.

I should clarify that I don't mean that it was bad. But its pacing was poor, I expected much more, and it was an overall unmemorable film. I recall seeing it on an awful date when it came out in one of those "the date sucks, thank god for this movie" moments that actually gives the film a full point higher, and makes it seem more entertaining. (also happened with The Sentinel.)

And even then, the movie undwrwhelmed me.

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This one was not good. I like the premise of a movie that explores the final days of Edgar Allen Poe, but the filmmakers tried too hard to ape RDJ's Sherlock Holmes franchise. There was such a dearth of creativity on display that it sunk the whole movie.

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Its a character driven movie.


This a redundant statement; All films are character driven. Character and plot are intertwined.

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This a redundant statement; All films are character driven. Character and plot are intertwined.


Yes and no, a phrase like "that film is character driven" is meant to express which part of the story is prioritized by the filmmakers.

Most films by directors like Jim Jarmusch or Mike Leigh are character driven because they focus almost completely in the relationships between characters, and because they have no plot, no story structure, no arc progression.

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This a redundant statement; All films are character driven. Character and plot are intertwined.


Yes and no, a phrase like "that film is character driven" is meant to express which part of the story is prioritized by the filmmakers.

Most films by directors like Jim Jarmusch or Mike Leigh are character driven because they focus almost completely in the relationships between characters, and because they have no plot, no story structure, no arc progression.


What happens if you write a script about an honest man and decide to turn him into a liar in your next draft? Your events have to change because the character has changed. The applies to every type of story, regardless of whether it's an action flick with an archetypal story design or a small personal film with a minimalist story design.

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What happens if you write a script about an honest man and decide to turn him into a liar in your next draft? Your events have to change because the character has changed. The applies to every type of story, regardless of whether it's an action flick with an archetypal story design or a small personal film with a minimalist story design.


Isn't a draft just a rewrite of the script before pre-production is even thought of ? I don't think that counts :lol:

Now if, in the film, the honest man turned into a liar, it's true, the events have changed, but there's no superceeding (sp) arc enveloping that character, at least not in the conventional sense, hence, the story is character driven as opposed to plot driven because it focuses on this man and how HE has changed.

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Meh. Feliciano said it better than I could.

Example:

Young Adult is a character driven film
Bridesmaids is not.


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Lil' Bernie wrote:
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Its a character driven movie.


This a redundant statement; All films are character driven. Character and plot are intertwined.

I beg to differ to some small degree.

In a movie like Die Hard, the story is progressed using plot devices, not character exposition.
We know the basics of the character and what his function is.
When the movie's progression rests on such devices, its a plot driven movie.
However when the movie's progression is directly connected to a character's personal progression and development over the story and plot, its clearly a character driven movie.
In Lethal Weapon, not only does the hero have a basic function in the story, but we follow him outside of the plot, and the movie further explores his character in settings fundamentally irrelevant to the actual crime mystery going on. Its something rarely afforded to heroes in action movies beyond the first act.
This lends itself more towards dramas and emotionally charged movies.

They're both intertwined in some measure.

Its simply a matter of upper hands.

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Young Adult is a character driven film


Would you recommend this one ? I'm kinda tempted, but I've heard mixed opinions on it.

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Young Adult is a character driven film


Would you recommend this one ? I'm kinda tempted, but I've heard mixed opinions on it.


Yup. I fucking loved this film and Charlize Theron is fantastic.


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Yep.

And 3/4 or so of Batman Forever which looks like a masterpiece compared to Batman and Robin.

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Yep.

And 3/4 or so of Batman Forever which looks like a masterpiece compared to Batman and Robin.


WHY

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And 3/4 or so of Batman Forever which looks like a masterpiece compared to Batman and Robin.


WHY

A bunch of friends and I just sat in the school auditorium all night and watched bad movies as part of an imitation MST3K thing. It was pretty fun.

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A bunch of friends and I just sat in the school auditorium all night and watched bad movies as part of an imitation MST3K thing. It was pretty fun.

I'd love to see what that's like for B&R, and Snakes on a Plane was made for that shit.

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Young Adult is a character driven film


Would you recommend this one ? I'm kinda tempted, but I've heard mixed opinions on it.


Yup. I fucking loved this film and Charlize Theron is fantastic.


Aaaaaaaaaaand sooooooooo it becomes next movie on the list :D !

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