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Correct me if i'm wrong, but comic based movies never get nominated for anything other than effects. I don't think that all comic book movies should be nominated, but there are very few exceptions. Batman Begins. Great movie. Was one of the best reviewed films of the year. Was praised for re-viving the Batman franchise etc. The movie wasn't nominated for anything other than the score and effects. Christian Bale did a great job portraying the character yet, only MTV recognized him for this. What if Watchmen turns out to be everything we want it to be? What if Jackie Earle Haley really nails the character of Rorshach and all his great lines? Would the movie and JEH be considered good enough to be nominated for a best performance, movie of the year etc.? Or would all the nominations go to some romantic drama or suspense thriller? Assuming Watchmen is everything we want it to be, would it get nominated or overlooked? I really do hope it gets the recognition it deserves. A nomination to JEH would be nice. Movie of the year would be better. It has a chance I think, after all, The Departed was nominated and won right? I was thinking about this and was wondering what you guys think? Can it be possible for Watchmen to get nominated? Would JEH get nominated? Discuss. . .

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Well first things first the Oscars are flawed as hell.
This is clearly a contender for best comic book movie ever (even before we've seen anything!), but the Oscars will only start with performances.
JEH in particular looks like he'll go onto Oscar glory, and even a small role in Little Children (rightfully) got him the nod...with a bigger role will Uncle Oscar give him the win he deserves (if his performance is as good, that is)? I'd be thrilled if we get any Oscar wins, or noms - but if we do I can really see it as the breakthrough moment for Oscars v Comics - I think we'd see films like Batman Begins get more awards etc

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Good question. This might belong in the Movie Threads though...!

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Absolutely they are overlooked, but I can't really think of many "comic book" movies that have thus far been worthy of "legitamate" recognition.

Perhaps the deconstructive element in Watchmen might open the door to a "Best Adapted Screenplay" or a "Best Supporting Actor". An element to be taken seriously. The potential is there, because the substance of the original material is as potent as potent can be.

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Batman Begins, if you really think about it, didn't have much that could compete with the movies of its year. It was going up against Ray, Sideways, Million Dollar Baby (overrated, but Clint Eastwood was going to get his recognition no matter what), Hotel Rwanda, and on and on and on. It was good in all aspects, but not good enough to make it up there with all of those. Outstanding performances, not so much - Bale is great, but he just kind of did his thing, nothing huge there. Michael Caine had a tiny role, Morgan Freeman, same, Katie Holmes was the only bad part of the movie, Gary Oldman had a tiny part, Liam Neeson had a relatively small part, etc.

The only things it could've got nods for would've been director or cinematography, and the cinematography wasn't hugely special, and director was going to go to Clint anyways.

The only other ones really up there in quality are Spider-Man 2 and Unbreakable. Spider-Man 2, I think Alfred Molina wouldn't have been a bad choice for a supporting actor nod, and Tobey was also pretty good, but not 'best actor' good. Raimi for director? Not even close. Unbreakable should've gotten some serious nods, but it didn't, unfortunately - but then again, I don't think Sixth Sense did, either. Still, that's essentially a different genre.

Someone's probably going to bring up V for Vendetta. No. No way. Not in any aspect.


If Watchmen turns out to have great performances, great direction, great artistic design/cinematography/costumes, etc., I think we'll definition see some accolades fly its way. They're ready to appreciate fantasy and sci-fi, as shown by Return of the King. They just need good material.

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Superhero films in general have been looked at (and rightly so) as popcorn blockbusters. Even great ones like Batman Begins and Spider-Man 2 are meant to entertain and wow, and don't necessarily say anything important or meaningful in the eyes of the film world.

The comic book or graphic-novel-based films that have gotten the most awards-attention (in all but technical categories) have always been the non-superhero films: Ghost World, American Splendor, A History of Violence and others, perhaps because they don't carry the superhero stigma.

Watchmen has a lot of prestige, sure, but it's still about costumed superheroes. So I wouldn't hold my breath, but who knows? If any source material is pedigreed enough to shake those stereogypes, it's this one. That said, it's all up to Zack Snyder and company to make an oustanding movie.

I don't know about that, Vynson - I'd challenge you to find a superhero-based movie that deserved an Oscar that it wasn't nominated for.

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Veidt that would be fairly easy when you compare a lot of superhero films to films that have got Oscars - my number one target is always gonna be Forrest Gump

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I think Forrest Gump was better than Spider-Man, and that's widely considered one of the best superhero movies. Also, it's not about how good it is - it's about how good it is in COMPARISON to the other movies of the year. Forrest Gump was competing with The Shadow and Fantastic Four (1994). If you'd give those Oscars over Forrest Gump... well, that'd be quite odd.

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...and the Green Mile, which was a lot better and worthy of a few Oscars easy. If it weren't for the Gump con it would've got them.
P.S. Spiderman is better than Forrest Gump and it's 2 that's considered one of the best - much like X-men

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Well, yeah, but Spider-Man is still up there. And I agree about The Green Mile, but that's not comic-based (Stephen King novella).

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Yeah I know I'm just saying, y'know, in its year Gump was far from the best film IMO.
And yeah 1 is impressive, its a pity someone decided that Spiderman and the Goblin should have a long coversations with their masks on(!) - oh and the goblin was blatantly a power ranger! heh
Anyway, the thing with the Oscars is I don't think we'd care so much about comic book movies being overlooked, if people weren't swayed by the Oscar decision. When a film wins a couple of Oscars or even just nominations, it'll plaster it all over posters and DVDs.

It's kinda like saying "Who needs critics when the film says 'Oscar'?"

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Well, the Oscar decision is far after the fact, usually, unless it's a movie released in the winter of the previous year. For Watchmen, it'll come, what... eleven months after the movie? Yeah, I don't think that'll affect it that much. I'm pretty sure most superhero movies come during the summer, actually, and they're some of the highest grossing movies of all time.

As far as what people choose the rent when they to Blockbuster - maybe. I may have done that on one or two occasions. Still, I find myself swayed more by IMDB ratings or good reviews. I know that most people, myself included, find themselves shouting at the Oscars rather than following them, most of the time.

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Outside of film appreciators, I'd think that most people don't do either really? I think people only view the decision to be of minor importance, but then get swayed by them. I wish I had some statistics to back this up, but like I said: DVD

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well at least 300 was shortlisted too...

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Well, I assumed we were talking about people that followed movies. People that are swayed by Oscars are usually the same ones that own Are We Done Yet? on DVD.

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I'd think there were about five years or so between Gump and the Green Mile - how could they compete at the Oscars?
Am I missing something? If so, feel free to enlighten me.

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