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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:03 am 
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this year, having both XMFC and Captain America being super hero movies both set in a non-contemporary era, which until recently ervery superhero movie was a modernization, or a character forced into a contemporary setting.

considering most big name super hero characters were created in the 30s, 40s, 60s, and 70s it seems to make sense for the characters to be portrayed in the times of their origin, rather than being shoe-horned into a badly fitting modern setting. First Class worked, and i expect Cap will work, but how about any others, Fantastic Four set during the height of the space race in the 60s? Luke Cage and/or Iron Fist set during the height of blaxploitation and kung fu cinema in the 70s?

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this year, having both XMFC and Captain America being super hero movies both set in a non-contemporary era, which until recently ervery superhero movie was a modernization, or a character forced into a contemporary setting.

considering most big name super hero characters were created in the 30s, 40s, 60s, and 70s it seems to make sense for the characters to be portrayed in the times of their origin, rather than being shoe-horned into a badly fitting modern setting. First Class worked, and i expect Cap will work, but how about any others, Fantastic Four set during the height of the space race in the 60s? Luke Cage and/or Iron Fist set during the height of blaxploitation and kung fu cinema in the 70s?

what do you think?


There have been a couple of other superhero movies set in the past, the ones that instantly spring to mind are The Rocketeer, Justice League: The New Frontier and (maybe this counts and maybe it doesn't) Watchmen.
I agree that a seventies powerman and iron fist movie would rule, and I would further suggest that there be a 60's Nick Fury spy-thriller, and a New Mutants movie set in the 80's, and a Dazzler movie set in the 70's.

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this year, having both XMFC and Captain America being super hero movies both set in a non-contemporary era, which until recently ervery superhero movie was a modernization, or a character forced into a contemporary setting.

considering most big name super hero characters were created in the 30s, 40s, 60s, and 70s it seems to make sense for the characters to be portrayed in the times of their origin, rather than being shoe-horned into a badly fitting modern setting. First Class worked, and i expect Cap will work, but how about any others, Fantastic Four set during the height of the space race in the 60s? Luke Cage and/or Iron Fist set during the height of blaxploitation and kung fu cinema in the 70s?

what do you think?


There have been a couple of other superhero movies set in the past, the ones that instantly spring to mind are The Rocketeer, Justice League: The New Frontier and (maybe this counts and maybe it doesn't) Watchmen.
I agree that a seventies powerman and iron fist movie would rule, and I would further suggest that there be a 60's Nick Fury spy-thriller, and a New Mutants movie set in the 80's, and a Dazzler movie set in the 70's.


there's also The Phantom, and The Shadow, and i'd say Watchmen sort of counts, but being that it is a one off that never evolved with the times, and is thematically tied to it's own era so strongly, the ability to contemporize it would have been harder to pull off, and generally disliked by fans.

i like the idea of a 60s set Nick Fury, that would be kick ass,
you could even involve characters such as winter soldier and black widow, maybe even crimson dynamo, it's a shame movieverse nick fury is black because if he wasn't it could much more easily be tied into the current movies

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i like the idea of a 60s set Nick Fury, that would be kick ass, you could even involve characters such as winter soldier and black widow, maybe even crimson dynamo, it's a shame movieverse nick fury is black because if he wasn't it could much more easily be tied into the current movies


The current movies ?

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i like the idea of a 60s set Nick Fury, that would be kick ass, you could even involve characters such as winter soldier and black widow, maybe even crimson dynamo, it's a shame movieverse nick fury is black because if he wasn't it could much more easily be tied into the current movies


The current movies ?



the current crossover movie canon

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AvatarIII wrote:
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i like the idea of a 60s set Nick Fury, that would be kick ass, you could even involve characters such as winter soldier and black widow, maybe even crimson dynamo, it's a shame movieverse nick fury is black because if he wasn't it could much more easily be tied into the current movies


The current movies ?


the current crossover movie canon


But you just said that it's a shame he's black, and that if he wasn't it could easily be easily tied into the current movies.

Isn't that what's happening right now ?

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feliciano182 wrote:
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i like the idea of a 60s set Nick Fury, that would be kick ass, you could even involve characters such as winter soldier and black widow, maybe even crimson dynamo, it's a shame movieverse nick fury is black because if he wasn't it could much more easily be tied into the current movies


The current movies ?


the current crossover movie canon


But you just said that it's a shame he's black, and that if he wasn't it could easily be easily tied into the current movies.

I don't quite understand what it is that you're saying. In the current movies Nick Fury is black, but if he wasn't black then they would be able to tie in a 60's white fury spy-thriller.

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Isn't that what's happening right now ?


I have heard of no plans of a movie being made with a white Nick Fury

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I don't quite understand what it is that you're saying. In the current movies Nick Fury is black, but if he wasn't black then they would be able to tie in a 60's white fury spy-thriller.


Nothing really, I just misread Avatar's comment.

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Watching X-men, I made a joke to one of my friends who was watching it with me that Hank and Raven look like a 60s era Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy. It was only then did I realize that I would kind of like to see a spider-man film set in the 60s.

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It was only then did I realize that I would kind of like to see a spider-man film set in the 60s.


I could ask why.

But probably the answer would be:

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It was only then did I realize that I would kind of like to see a spider-man film set in the 60s.


I could ask why.

But probably the answer would be:

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....a guy pouring out a cup of water?

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t3cii wrote:
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It was only then did I realize that I would kind of like to see a spider-man film set in the 60s.


I could ask why.

But probably the answer would be:

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....a guy pouring out a cup of water?


We need more Rubber fans in this bitch !

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t3cii wrote:
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It was only then did I realize that I would kind of like to see a spider-man film set in the 60s.


I could ask why.

But probably the answer would be:

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....a guy pouring out a cup of water?

It's funny if you've seen Rubber and know that SkaOreo wants to marry it.

And then become a bigamist and marry Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs too.

Byeah, a Spider-man movie set in the 60's would be cool.

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Just for t3cii.

As for my two cents, I think Guillermo del Toro put it best: The setting is half the story.

Keeping Tony Stark in the Vietnam era might have been interesting, but shifting his origin story to the modern day actually makes a lot of sense, given our current wars in the Middle East, the lavishness of super-rich lifestyles reaching increasingly new heights and changes in public perception of computers and flight technology.

By comparison, X-Men: First Class is given an entirely new angle with the Cold War setting, as it sets the mutant prejudice against a real-life case of hostile xenophobic tension (also, it was kinda necessary to make the movie a prequel). As for Captain America, that character is practically inseparable from WWII. The hero and the time both represent America's Golden Age, when the USA could overcome incredible odds to defeat an unambiguously evil force.

My point being that movies should be very careful in choosing the setting that best fits the story. Sometimes, the best choice may not be the most obvious one (A crime thriller in the Congo? The heck you say!) Regarding superhero movies, I think that the retro comic book flicks have introduced a fascinating new device for the genre toolbox and proven just how powerful it can be. I'll be interested to see how and if other filmmakers use it in the future.

EDIT: The thought occurs to me that a Spider-Man film set in the past would actually make sense. After all, science geeks aren't nearly as downtrodden nowadays as they used to be.

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feliciano182 wrote:
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It was only then did I realize that I would kind of like to see a spider-man film set in the 60s.


I could ask why.

But probably the answer would be:

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Well...yeah.

But it's also that I love that setting. What was great about First Class was that it felt like a Bond film, and I would love for that aesthetic to appear in Spider-man.


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Smutty wrote:
feliciano182 wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:
feliciano182 wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:
i like the idea of a 60s set Nick Fury, that would be kick ass, you could even involve characters such as winter soldier and black widow, maybe even crimson dynamo, it's a shame movieverse nick fury is black because if he wasn't it could much more easily be tied into the current movies


The current movies ?


the current crossover movie canon


But you just said that it's a shame he's black, and that if he wasn't it could easily be easily tied into the current movies.

I don't quite understand what it is that you're saying. In the current movies Nick Fury is black, but if he wasn't black then they would be able to tie in a 60's white fury spy-thriller.

feliciano182 wrote:
Isn't that what's happening right now ?


I have heard of no plans of a movie being made with a white Nick Fury


smutty knows what i meant,
due to the lack of racial equality in the 60's you couldn't have a black guy going around pretending to be a rich playboy in the 60s, he'd stick out like a sore thumb, i remember hearing a story about original star trek and how uhura was pretty much one of the first black people in scripted tv that wasn't a maid or servant, and that was in 1966,
at best you could set it in the 70s

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due to the lack of racial equality in the 60's you couldn't have a black guy going around pretending to be a rich playboy in the 60s, he'd stick out like a sore thumb, i remember hearing a story about original star trek and how uhura was pretty much one of the first black people in scripted tv that wasn't a maid or servant, and that was in 1966,
at best you could set it in the 70s


Yeah I got what you meant now.

And me personally, even if it's SLJ, I still wouldn't like Black Fury, his character doesn't have the "aura of superiority" that came from White Fury, to me there's nothing in the Marvel Universe like the image of the latter with a big fat cigar in his mouth, screaming orders and giving reprimands to both SHIELD and The Avengers.

WHY MARK MILLAR ?!! WHY DID YOU MAKE FURY BLACK ??!!!

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Oh c'mon, you're gonna let goddamn Baywatch speak for more years of Nick Fury aweomeness ? I wouldn't think so !

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