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the 2nd renaissance covers terminator 3-4
The Matrix is what happens when humanity loses the war.

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the 2nd renaissance covers terminator 3-4
The Matrix is what happens when humanity loses the war.



No, it´s much more then that. You can´t even compare.


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RuiBK wrote:
NiteOwl wrote:
the 2nd renaissance covers terminator 3-4
The Matrix is what happens when humanity loses the war.



No, it´s much more then that. You can´t even compare.

My dad and I wrote a 210 page crosspver that also involved aliens, predator and robocop.

After revolutions morpheus and others were given free reign to "preach" the truth.
Then they eventually meet hotshot police officer, Alex Murphy, who chooses the red pill, but as they're pulling him out, a caste of gen 1 agents, facing deletion, defy their programming (which the Architect orchastrated) break the truce and nearly kill murphy as he's exiting the matrix.
When Morpheus and the new crew of the Nebuchadnezzer II pull in his body, they find a strange creature attached to his face. Connecting the dots, Morpheus asks a group from Zion to investigate a crashed "derelict ship" on the surface, originally thought to be a ship from Zion, this is quickly debunked when they discover an alien like creature inside. (the predator)
They bring him back to Zion to interrogate him or study him or whatever, and he shows them, via a hologram on his computer gauntlet, how the aliens have nested where the "dead" bodies get ejected.
However its much worse than either parties know, the aliens have also spread into the breeding grounds, impregnating those who are still IN pods, spawning xenomorphs who are infused on a technological level, and who also have 'doubles' (per se) spawn IN the matrix when their host dies. The predator is shown alex murphy, and he extracts the alien in his chest and killing it. Making it quite clear what he's on Earth to do.

Eventually Alex Murphy gets augmented with some machine prosthetics, making his residual self-image in the matrix that of "robocop

Idk why I'm putting all this here. But oh well. *shrug*

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NiteOwl wrote:
RuiBK wrote:
NiteOwl wrote:
the 2nd renaissance covers terminator 3-4
The Matrix is what happens when humanity loses the war.



No, it´s much more then that. You can´t even compare.

My dad and I wrote a 210 page crosspver that also involved aliens, predator and robocop.

After revolutions and others were given free reign to "preach" the truth.
Then they hotshot police officerAlex Murphy, who chooses the red pill, but as they're pulling him out, a caste of gen 1 agents, facing deletion, defy their programming (which the Architect orchastrated) break the truce and nearly kill murphy as he's exiting the matrix.
When Morpheus and the new crew of the Nebuchadnezzer II pull in his body, they find a strange creature attached to his face. Connecting the dots, Morpheus asks a group from Zion to investigate a crashed "derelict ship" on the surface, originally thought to be a ship from Zion, this is quickly debunked when they discover an alien like creature inside. (the predator)
They bring him back to Zion to interrogate him or study him or whatever, and he shows them, via a hologram on his computer gauntlet, how the aliens have nested where the "dead" bodies get ejected.
However its much worse than either parties know, the aliens have also spread into the breeding grounds, impregnating those who are still IN pods, spawning xenomorphs who are infused on a technological level, and who also have 'doubles' (per se) spawn IN the matrix when their host dies. The predator is shown alex murphy, and he extracts the alien in his chest and killing it. Making it quite clear what he's on Earth to do.

Eventually Alex Murphy gets augmented with some machine prosthetics, making his residual self-image in the matrix that of "robocop

Idk why I'm putting all this here. But oh well. *shrug*



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oh yeah and the oracle kinda inadvertantly gives away the location to an army of old deactivated terminator units T-800's and such, to morpheus. He sends a scout ship to check it out and sure enough, an army of old deactivated terminator units just ripe for the picking. Zion scientists reprogram most to be xenomorph hunters and to protect zion and humans in general, but a small upgraded squad is linked into the matrix as a special exterminator squad.
Kill the xenomorph in the matrix, and it dies in the real world.

in the climax hundreds of agents, terminators, aliens, robocop and morpheus face off in a massive battle in the matrix, while simultaneously, in the real world, the predator and the other terminators seek out the queen.

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NiteOwl wrote:
My dad and I wrote a 210 page crosspver that also involved aliens, predator and robocop.

After revolutions morpheus and others were given free reign to "preach" the truth.
Then they eventually meet hotshot police officer, Alex Murphy, who chooses the red pill, but as they're pulling him out, a caste of gen 1 agents, facing deletion, defy their programming (which the Architect orchastrated) break the truce and nearly kill murphy as he's exiting the matrix.
When Morpheus and the new crew of the Nebuchadnezzer II pull in his body, they find a strange creature attached to his face. Connecting the dots, Morpheus asks a group from Zion to investigate a crashed "derelict ship" on the surface, originally thought to be a ship from Zion, this is quickly debunked when they discover an alien like creature inside. (the predator)
They bring him back to Zion to interrogate him or study him or whatever, and he shows them, via a hologram on his computer gauntlet, how the aliens have nested where the "dead" bodies get ejected.
However its much worse than either parties know, the aliens have also spread into the breeding grounds, impregnating those who are still IN pods, spawning xenomorphs who are infused on a technological level, and who also have 'doubles' (per se) spawn IN the matrix when their host dies. The predator is shown alex murphy, and he extracts the alien in his chest and killing it. Making it quite clear what he's on Earth to do.

Eventually Alex Murphy gets augmented with some machine prosthetics, making his residual self-image in the matrix that of "robocop

Idk why I'm putting all this here. But oh well. *shrug*

NiteOwl wrote:
oh yeah and the oracle kinda inadvertantly gives away the location to an army of old deactivated terminator units T-800's and such, to morpheus. He sends a scout ship to check it out and sure enough, an army of old deactivated terminator units just ripe for the picking. Zion scientists reprogram most to be xenomorph hunters and to protect zion and humans in general, but a small upgraded squad is linked into the matrix as a special exterminator squad.
Kill the xenomorph in the matrix, and it dies in the real world.

in the climax hundreds of agents, terminators, aliens, robocop and morpheus face off in a massive battle in the matrix, while simultaneously, in the real world, the predator and the other terminators seek out the queen.


and shelly has learned the wonders of marijuana

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
NiteOwl wrote:
My dad and I wrote a 210 page crosspver that also involved aliens, predator and robocop.

After revolutions morpheus and others were given free reign to "preach" the truth.
Then they eventually meet hotshot police officer, Alex Murphy, who chooses the red pill, but as they're pulling him out, a caste of gen 1 agents, facing deletion, defy their programming (which the Architect orchastrated) break the truce and nearly kill murphy as he's exiting the matrix.
When Morpheus and the new crew of the Nebuchadnezzer II pull in his body, they find a strange creature attached to his face. Connecting the dots, Morpheus asks a group from Zion to investigate a crashed "derelict ship" on the surface, originally thought to be a ship from Zion, this is quickly debunked when they discover an alien like creature inside. (the predator)
They bring him back to Zion to interrogate him or study him or whatever, and he shows them, via a hologram on his computer gauntlet, how the aliens have nested where the "dead" bodies get ejected.
However its much worse than either parties know, the aliens have also spread into the breeding grounds, impregnating those who are still IN pods, spawning xenomorphs who are infused on a technological level, and who also have 'doubles' (per se) spawn IN the matrix when their host dies. The predator is shown alex murphy, and he extracts the alien in his chest and killing it. Making it quite clear what he's on Earth to do.

Eventually Alex Murphy gets augmented with some machine prosthetics, making his residual self-image in the matrix that of "robocop

Idk why I'm putting all this here. But oh well. *shrug*

NiteOwl wrote:
oh yeah and the oracle kinda inadvertantly gives away the location to an army of old deactivated terminator units T-800's and such, to morpheus. He sends a scout ship to check it out and sure enough, an army of old deactivated terminator units just ripe for the picking. Zion scientists reprogram most to be xenomorph hunters and to protect zion and humans in general, but a small upgraded squad is linked into the matrix as a special exterminator squad.
Kill the xenomorph in the matrix, and it dies in the real world.

in the climax hundreds of agents, terminators, aliens, robocop and morpheus face off in a massive battle in the matrix, while simultaneously, in the real world, the predator and the other terminators seek out the queen.


and shelly has learned the wonders of marijuana

no really my dad and I wrote this in the span of like two years.
we had suitcases full of notes and sketchs entire notebooks full on compatibility and theory.
Some dads take their kids fishing...
my dad and I...
we do this. :mrgreen:

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Some dads take their kids fishing...
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we do this. :mrgreen:


Smoke marijuana ?

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NiteOwl wrote:
Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
NiteOwl wrote:
My dad and I wrote a 210 page crosspver that also involved aliens, predator and robocop.

After revolutions morpheus and others were given free reign to "preach" the truth.
Then they eventually meet hotshot police officer, Alex Murphy, who chooses the red pill, but as they're pulling him out, a caste of gen 1 agents, facing deletion, defy their programming (which the Architect orchastrated) break the truce and nearly kill murphy as he's exiting the matrix.
When Morpheus and the new crew of the Nebuchadnezzer II pull in his body, they find a strange creature attached to his face. Connecting the dots, Morpheus asks a group from Zion to investigate a crashed "derelict ship" on the surface, originally thought to be a ship from Zion, this is quickly debunked when they discover an alien like creature inside. (the predator)
They bring him back to Zion to interrogate him or study him or whatever, and he shows them, via a hologram on his computer gauntlet, how the aliens have nested where the "dead" bodies get ejected.
However its much worse than either parties know, the aliens have also spread into the breeding grounds, impregnating those who are still IN pods, spawning xenomorphs who are infused on a technological level, and who also have 'doubles' (per se) spawn IN the matrix when their host dies. The predator is shown alex murphy, and he extracts the alien in his chest and killing it. Making it quite clear what he's on Earth to do.

Eventually Alex Murphy gets augmented with some machine prosthetics, making his residual self-image in the matrix that of "robocop

Idk why I'm putting all this here. But oh well. *shrug*

NiteOwl wrote:
oh yeah and the oracle kinda inadvertantly gives away the location to an army of old deactivated terminator units T-800's and such, to morpheus. He sends a scout ship to check it out and sure enough, an army of old deactivated terminator units just ripe for the picking. Zion scientists reprogram most to be xenomorph hunters and to protect zion and humans in general, but a small upgraded squad is linked into the matrix as a special exterminator squad.
Kill the xenomorph in the matrix, and it dies in the real world.

in the climax hundreds of agents, terminators, aliens, robocop and morpheus face off in a massive battle in the matrix, while simultaneously, in the real world, the predator and the other terminators seek out the queen.


and shelly has learned the wonders of marijuana

no really my dad and I wrote this in the span of like two years.
we had suitcases full of notes and sketchs entire notebooks full on compatibility and theory.
Some dads take their kids fishing...
my dad and I...
we do this. :mrgreen:


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feliciano182 wrote:
NiteOwl wrote:
Some dads take their kids fishing...
my dad and I...
we do this. :mrgreen:


Smoke marijuana ?

noooo.
Think up fan fictions, epic crossovers, and such.

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NiteOwl wrote:
oh yeah and the oracle kinda inadvertantly gives away the location to an army of old deactivated terminator units T-800's and such, to morpheus. He sends a scout ship to check it out and sure enough, an army of old deactivated terminator units just ripe for the picking. Zion scientists reprogram most to be xenomorph hunters and to protect zion and humans in general, but a small upgraded squad is linked into the matrix as a special exterminator squad.
Kill the xenomorph in the matrix, and it dies in the real world.

in the climax hundreds of agents, terminators, aliens, robocop and morpheus face off in a massive battle in the matrix, while simultaneously, in the real world, the predator and the other terminators seek out the queen.


so Aleins are IN the matrix, are they plugged in or are they obsolete programs like the vampires twins and such? or the next stage in programs (beyond Agents?) if so, why would the architect program something so powerful, either before (and how did they get reigned in?) or after (why would there be a point in making something like that after the Truce?)

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AvatarIII wrote:
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oh yeah and the oracle kinda inadvertantly gives away the location to an army of old deactivated terminator units T-800's and such, to morpheus. He sends a scout ship to check it out and sure enough, an army of old deactivated terminator units just ripe for the picking. Zion scientists reprogram most to be xenomorph hunters and to protect zion and humans in general, but a small upgraded squad is linked into the matrix as a special exterminator squad.
Kill the xenomorph in the matrix, and it dies in the real world.

in the climax hundreds of agents, terminators, aliens, robocop and morpheus face off in a massive battle in the matrix, while simultaneously, in the real world, the predator and the other terminators seek out the queen.


so Aleins are IN the matrix, are they plugged in or are they obsolete programs like the vampires twins and such? or the next stage in programs (beyond Agents?) if so, why would the architect program something so powerful, either before (and how did they get reigned in?) or after (why would there be a point in making something like that after the Truce?)
The Architect had no hand in creating anything for the aliens. Xenomorph are known to biologically mimic their host, and if their host is filled with power outlets and actively connected to a massive computer, the Xenomorph's adaptive process would also mimic this connection, not only resulting to a "double" being spawning in the matrix upon "birth", but an constantly active neural link directly to the matrix as well in the physical Xenomorph.
Like being in both places at the same time.
So these aliens have native technology infused with their biological components.

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NiteOwl wrote:
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NiteOwl wrote:
oh yeah and the oracle kinda inadvertantly gives away the location to an army of old deactivated terminator units T-800's and such, to morpheus. He sends a scout ship to check it out and sure enough, an army of old deactivated terminator units just ripe for the picking. Zion scientists reprogram most to be xenomorph hunters and to protect zion and humans in general, but a small upgraded squad is linked into the matrix as a special exterminator squad.
Kill the xenomorph in the matrix, and it dies in the real world.

in the climax hundreds of agents, terminators, aliens, robocop and morpheus face off in a massive battle in the matrix, while simultaneously, in the real world, the predator and the other terminators seek out the queen.


so Aleins are IN the matrix, are they plugged in or are they obsolete programs like the vampires twins and such? or the next stage in programs (beyond Agents?) if so, why would the architect program something so powerful, either before (and how did they get reigned in?) or after (why would there be a point in making something like that after the Truce?)
The Architect had no hand in creating anything for the aliens. Xenomorph are known to biologically mimic their host, and if their host is filled with power outlets and actively connected to a massive computer, the Xenomorph's adaptive process would also mimic this connection, not only resulting to a "double" being spawning in the matrix upon "birth", but an constantly active neural link directly to the matrix as well in the physical Xenomorph.
Like being in both places at the same time.
So these aliens have native technology infused with their biological components.



but the genetic reflex wouldn't copy non genetic material, however, i guess since Aliens are already biomechanical, there is no need to adapt to create mechanical parts, you could imagine that it could get into the matrix in the same way Smith got out.

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AvatarIII wrote:
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AvatarIII wrote:
NiteOwl wrote:
oh yeah and the oracle kinda inadvertantly gives away the location to an army of old deactivated terminator units T-800's and such, to morpheus. He sends a scout ship to check it out and sure enough, an army of old deactivated terminator units just ripe for the picking. Zion scientists reprogram most to be xenomorph hunters and to protect zion and humans in general, but a small upgraded squad is linked into the matrix as a special exterminator squad.
Kill the xenomorph in the matrix, and it dies in the real world.

in the climax hundreds of agents, terminators, aliens, robocop and morpheus face off in a massive battle in the matrix, while simultaneously, in the real world, the predator and the other terminators seek out the queen.


so Aleins are IN the matrix, are they plugged in or are they obsolete programs like the vampires twins and such? or the next stage in programs (beyond Agents?) if so, why would the architect program something so powerful, either before (and how did they get reigned in?) or after (why would there be a point in making something like that after the Truce?)
The Architect had no hand in creating anything for the aliens. Xenomorph are known to biologically mimic their host, and if their host is filled with power outlets and actively connected to a massive computer, the Xenomorph's adaptive process would also mimic this connection, not only resulting to a "double" being spawning in the matrix upon "birth", but an constantly active neural link directly to the matrix as well in the physical Xenomorph.
Like being in both places at the same time.
So these aliens have native technology infused with their biological components.



but the genetic reflex wouldn't copy non genetic material, however, i guess since Aliens are already biomechanical, there is no need to adapt to create mechanical parts, you could imagine that it could get into the matrix in the same way Smith got out.

but my entire reasoning behind them adapting the connections IS because they're already biomechanical. The aliens aren't trying to get into the matrix, its for all intents and purposes...
a side effect.

plus we spent the better part of a year JUST fleshing out this particular idea.
if it sounds underdeveloped its simply because I don't wanna trudge out every tiny relevant detail.

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it doesn't sound underdeveloped, it just doesn't sound staightforward, i'm sure you have developed it enough in your 210 page treatment, but in the little bits you've given i just wasn't sure how it would work.

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it doesn't sound underdeveloped, it just doesn't sound staightforward, i'm sure you have developed it enough in your 210 page treatment, but in the little bits you've given i just wasn't sure how it would work.

well its all on paper believe it or not but if I ever put it on computer I'll let ya'll read it if ya want.

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oh yeah and the oracle kinda inadvertantly gives away the location to an army of old deactivated terminator units T-800's and such, to morpheus. He sends a scout ship to check it out and sure enough, an army of old deactivated terminator units just ripe for the picking. Zion scientists reprogram most to be xenomorph hunters and to protect zion and humans in general, but a small upgraded squad is linked into the matrix as a special exterminator squad.
Kill the xenomorph in the matrix, and it dies in the real world.

in the climax hundreds of agents, terminators, aliens, robocop and morpheus face off in a massive battle in the matrix, while simultaneously, in the real world, the predator and the other terminators seek out the queen.


so Aleins are IN the matrix, are they plugged in or are they obsolete programs like the vampires twins and such? or the next stage in programs (beyond Agents?) if so, why would the architect program something so powerful, either before (and how did they get reigned in?) or after (why would there be a point in making something like that after the Truce?)
The Architect had no hand in creating anything for the aliens. Xenomorph are known to biologically mimic their host, and if their host is filled with power outlets and actively connected to a massive computer, the Xenomorph's adaptive process would also mimic this connection, not only resulting to a "double" being spawning in the matrix upon "birth", but an constantly active neural link directly to the matrix as well in the physical Xenomorph.
Like being in both places at the same time.
So these aliens have native technology infused with their biological components.


If that's the case, then all the people need to do is exit the matrix and unplug the alien while it's still connected.

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oh yeah and the oracle kinda inadvertantly gives away the location to an army of old deactivated terminator units T-800's and such, to morpheus. He sends a scout ship to check it out and sure enough, an army of old deactivated terminator units just ripe for the picking. Zion scientists reprogram most to be xenomorph hunters and to protect zion and humans in general, but a small upgraded squad is linked into the matrix as a special exterminator squad.
Kill the xenomorph in the matrix, and it dies in the real world.

in the climax hundreds of agents, terminators, aliens, robocop and morpheus face off in a massive battle in the matrix, while simultaneously, in the real world, the predator and the other terminators seek out the queen.


so Aleins are IN the matrix, are they plugged in or are they obsolete programs like the vampires twins and such? or the next stage in programs (beyond Agents?) if so, why would the architect program something so powerful, either before (and how did they get reigned in?) or after (why would there be a point in making something like that after the Truce?)
The Architect had no hand in creating anything for the aliens. Xenomorph are known to biologically mimic their host, and if their host is filled with power outlets and actively connected to a massive computer, the Xenomorph's adaptive process would also mimic this connection, not only resulting to a "double" being spawning in the matrix upon "birth", but an constantly active neural link directly to the matrix as well in the physical Xenomorph.
Like being in both places at the same time.
So these aliens have native technology infused with their biological components.


If that's the case, then all the people need to do is exit the matrix and unplug the alien while it's still connected.

problem, officer?

they're not physically connected...
which is why its so dangerous
they're conscious in both 'world'

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