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I don't see why not, it's the similar kind of humour.

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Um wut. Yeah I'm gonna disagree with you completely. I find the show hilarious at times but it's definitely a drama. The show creator and all the actors seem to agree too.

But hey, as long as you enjoy it, bro. Get onto season 3 asap.

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As I've said, I haven't seen the earlier seasons (and I'll be honest, probably never will) so maybe the tone was more comedic, but from the tone of the episodes I've seen, this isn't remotely a comedy. Sure, there are funny moments involved, but that's usually true of any drama. When you have characters killing each other (like the spectacularly brutal scene in the episode "Box Cutter"), and characters being brought down to the depths of despair, the idea that this is really just a black comedy is kind of ridiculous.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

My idea of what a black comedy is though is bleak fiction about hopelessness

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Say, Doc, did I ever tell you I'm the only metal that's liquid at room temperature?

Then again, that's because the show took a turn for a darker tone, which started near the end of season 2, at that point the producers chose to exploit the "crime show" angle more frequently and leave aside the comedic aspects of the show.

No one here can't deny that scenes like Walt, with a gun, standing on the road with his pants down, his rant when he got fired at the car wash, his "pep talk" to the students at his school, are just downright comedy, only less obvious, you're not going to get the pre-recorded laughter after Hank horribly fails at being sympathetic to Walt's announcement that he has cancer.

I think what Lil'Bernie is having a hard time getting is how the show had enough comedic and dramatic aspects up until season 3 came along, a movie that could very well be compared with Breaking Bad is Trainspotting, nobody will ever say in their right mind that Trainspotting is full-on drama and has no comedy aspect at all.

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Yeah, but Smutty was saying that it didn't feel like a drama at all. But, he has only watched the first two seasons which for all I know were more comedic. Episodes like "Half Measure", though, are very dramatic.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Y U NO WATCHING FIRST SEASONS ?!!

Go ! NOW ! You still have time !

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You guys realize that drama can be funny too, right? Not all dramas are serious all the way through. Life is funny, dramas should reflect that too.



I don't have a hard time getting that at all. I've already said before that this show has some hilarious moments. Jesse's friend Badger cracks me up. And the scene where Walt and Jesse steal the stuff so they can continue to cook crystal meth is pure gold. Even when a a giant chunk of bloody matter melts through Jesse's bathtub as he tries to dissolve him in his upstairs bathroom using hydrochloric acid is funny! But this show has always been about change, he even says it in the first episode. "I prefer to see chemistry as the study of change". The whole show is about taking a nice character and turning him into a completely different person. I expect by the end of the show, we'll find it really hard to actually like Walt at all.

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Of course, but there is a difference between comedic relief and what Breaking Bad does in it's portrayal of Walt, more poignantly in the first seasons, before the show "turned it up".



Uuuuhhhhmmmm, are we watching the same show at all ? When exactly was Walt White likable ?

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That doesn't mean the show isn't a drama, it very much is. Even in the first season, I got that it was a drama with this great sense of humor about where the characters find themselves. There are some great dramatic moments such as Walt finally admitting that he'll undertake chemotherapy and Walt addressing his family on a camcorder before attempting to commit police suicide in the first episode.



If you don't see anything redeeming at all in Walt then that's your thing and I won't tell you otherwise. But that's not the point I'm trying to make.

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???

When did I say it wasn't drama at all ? If anything I only said you were underestimating how the show makes a point about who Walt is by taking the piss out of him with each episode.

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Just as it's possible for dramas to have comedic parts, it's also possible for comedies to have dramatic parts

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Say, Doc, did I ever tell you I'm the only metal that's liquid at room temperature?

I wasn't referring to you. And I don't underestimate it all. Again, not the point I'm trying to make.



Exactly, and the drama in Breaking Bad far outweighs the comedic elements, especially as the shows progressed. That's why Cranston's won the Best Actor in Drama series for all three seasons of the program in the Drama category. Again, watch any interview with the cast and show creator, Vince Gilligan, and the show is very much a drama.

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"Open House"

I feel like this might be a difficult series to provide any good discussion. It just seems like very little happens. But I'll give it a go.

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- Jesse's decent into the abyss seems like it's moving pretty quickly, although I guess that's understandable since this is only a 13 episode (I presume) season. Still, he's now hanging out with bums. Of all the people to surround himself with, he's actively surrounding himself with people who are in even more despair than he is. Is this a case of misery loving company, or him trying to make himself feel less like a wretch by comparison?

- Hank and Marie continue to live a miserable marriage. Hank is still a colossal prick, but now Marie is acting out by stealing. I would guess this has already been established in earlier episodes? Seeing her put on such an act was sad. She could just walk into an open house and not start a big, and elaborate conversation. So is she just trying to live out fantasies of a life where she isn't Hank's doormat?

- Skyler was dead set on buying the car wash, and she did it. Still, she's being dangerously stubborn. While it's kind of sweet that she's now a part of Walt's plans, the two are so far out of their depth. Skyler's paranoia about being found out may be justified, but it is misplaced. It's not the IRS, or her friends, or neighbors she should be worrying about. It's the black man sitting in his car, watching their house from outside. The man who most likely tailed Walt in the previous episode, and alerted Gus to Walt's presence. And it's Gus, the man who could make Walt's life very uncomfortable, that they should be worrying about.

- Walt kind of takes a back seat in this episode. I don't recall him doing very much, although he has a new concern to deal with in the new security cameras. Walt made a very bold move against Gus last season, a brilliant move. But now Walt is officially in the game, and he's out of his league. Gus now is watching his every move. It's going to be very difficult for Walt to make another move against Gus.

- Hank finally gets something to do beyond just bitching and moaning about Marie getting Fritos, instead of Cheetos (yeah, they're two different chips, but come on Hank, it's all crap anyway). I see this plot going down a dead end. I think Hank will be filled with a sense of his old self, enthusiastically digging into this new case he's been handed. But I think he'll have the rug pulled out from under him. I can see him being abruptly cut off, his partner saying "thanks for the help, but it looks like we're going to take it from here, so it looks like you're off the hook, buddy". He'll have done the guy a favour, but his work will take off without him since they need a guy in the field, not one sitting in bed. And Hank will end up being very, very bitter.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Maybe both, personally I felt very bad for Jesse at that moment, and later with the scene at the lab where he asked Walter if he wanted to go to the Go-Karts, I feel that Walt owes him a great debt for saving their lives, yet we musn't forget that Walt did save Jesse's life before.

Whatever the case, and despite what has happened between the two, I don't see Jesse making it very far in the future, it would be hard if he wasn't anymore in the show, but what else is there to it ?



"What ? She robbed a bank this time ? Hehe" That scene was brutal.

When Skyler had her baby shower in season one, Marie gave her this little tiara that looked like it cost a goddamn fortune, everyone looked at it odd, I can't remember the details, but I think Skyler got picked up later by security in a mall because the tiara had been stolen, when she confronted Marie, the latter NEVER admitted to have stealed the tiara, and even accused her of even thinking that, exactly as it happened in this episode.

Now, the elaborate fantasies ? That's a completely new thing.



We'll have to see how the plot moves on, as I said, I think Juarez may be coming down on Gus, maybe not, we also need to see what happens with Mike also, I think what most fans expect is for Walt to take over Gus' position and see how the show goes from there.

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The girl in the video played Monique in Scott Pilgrim vs The World. I've been seeing her quite a bit recently in commercials.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

I thought "Open House" was great. My mum made a comment after the first episode that Jesse is starting to become really cold after the diner in episode 1. I thought it was some kind of act to cover up what's really going on. Obviously I was somewhat right as Jesse is clearly suffering from PTSD. That go kart scene was fucking eerie, man. Aaron Paul continues to amaze me.

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"Bullet Points"

A very solid episode as the season starts to pick up the pace, and set the course for what could be a few shocking episodes. This turned out to be a surprisingly long review, but it's nice to have another show to over analyze.


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- Great cold open. Get it? Cold? See, Mike was sitting in a cooler. Sometimes, I impress even myself.

- Uh, speaking of Mike, that is one tough mother fucker. How tough is Mike? He reacts to his ear almost being blown off as if it were nothing more than a paper cut. Mike is hard. Maybe the coolest character currently on television. (HA! I brought it back to "cool" again! )

- It's funny to see Walter and Skyler go over their lines as if they're acting in some play. Cranston really sells the scene. He looks so utterly bored, so frustrated at the ordeal. Sklyer is still trying to cover their bases, but it's also a little embarrassing to see Walt be so emasculated by it all.

- It's nice to see Hank not be a dick for once this season. He seems like a cool guy. Hank has gone through his own emasculation this season, forced to live in mundane solitude in a wheelchair. He's energized by being around people he can let loose with. There's still the look of minor annoyance at Marie with the use of the word "rocks" when she describes his mineral collection hobby, but here he's mostly relaxed.

- I'm glad we didn't see the conversation about Walt and Skyler's car wash. It would have been too embarrassing to see Walt awkwardly lie a lie so needlessly complicated.

- Once again, we see Gale from beyond the grave. It's interesting, most shows make you forget that someone has died by the third or fourth episode. Here, we see Gale joyously (albeit, probably lonely) filming himself doing karaoke. Gale was such a sweet, harmless guy, filling his school notebook with recipes (regular, and illegal) and Far Side cartoons. Someone on another forum once compared him to Martin Prince from the Simpsons, a happy go lucky kid with a love of science and culture. How could you not like the guy, even a little? And how could Jesse kill him in cold blood?

- Later, we get a surprisingly tense scene between Walt and Hank going over Gale's folder. The moment Hank tries to speculate that the W.W in Gale's notebook might refer to Walt was like seeing a lion size up his prey. Walt plays it off, and Hank goes back to being easy going, but does he suspect Walt, yet maybe not consciously know it?

- Jesse's home continues to look like the Dawn Of The Dead. Walt refers to Jesse's living conditions as Skid Row, and it's an apt description. There's a skid row in Vancouver's East Hastings, which incidentally inspired a song by Godspeed You Black Emperor, which was used in the zombie flick 28 Days Later. East Hastings is a neighbourhood home to a few hundred homeless drug addicts. It's a very grim situation, and that's a reality you rarely see on network tv. I sometimes see ads warning of the risks to using Crystal Meth, where you see a before and after photo, where the person using Meth had aged 10 years over a much shorter time period. They're not just addicted to it, it physically changes their appearance. This is the world Walt and Jesse are supplying. Doesn't Walt ever consider that?

- Mike and the new guy clean up Jesse's situation. I was surprised by that since I thought Jesse being robbed would be a plot line in itself. Jesse just shrugs. Earlier in the episode Walt carelessly tries to make him relive the moment he killed Gale, and there's a great closeup of Jesse's face. Who needs flashbacks when you have Aaron Paul's face to tell the story? Great acting.

- The final scene where Mike and Jesse drive off at dusk is eerily reminiscent of the final 20 minutes of Se7en. While I doubt Jesse is going to be killed off, just what does Mike have in store for him?

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Superb episode!




He's a really great character. Watch season 3 for more Mike badassness



This was a really great scene, and really showed some of the comedic elements of the show that has decreased as the shows progressed and gotten darker.



I love Hank, he's always been a cool, funny guy. But this season he's just been an ass, he doesn't feel like a man any more and is taking it out on his wife. Nice to see some of the old Hank again.

And yeah, the end of the episode was very Se7en. Aaron Paul continues to amaze me! Can't wait until next week

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