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Finally! Someone else saw the episode. feliciano, where are you?

One thing I forgot to mention in my previous post was the apparent blind spot with the lab's security camera. Walt goes unnoticed while Jesse works on the current batch. I wonder if there's a way Walt can exploit that? I was thinking maybe Jesse's robot cleaner could be put in a spot close to the camera, leaving Walt and Jesse to go unseen.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

I was a little tired at the time to answer your post, nothing personal

Some things bothered me about this episode, even though overall it was great.



I can see how you can like this scene, since you're new to the show, for my part, I found it obnoxious, let me explain:

It's been a recurrent aspect of the show to constantly mock Walter's attitude towards pretty much everything in life, the latter isn't exactly a great judge of character and is not exactly a sympathetic person, put simply, he is a jackass, there was a scene at the beginning of season 3 when a horrible accident happens and Walt is forced to give a pep-talk at his school, what he says is so horrible and so insensitive that you could've just jumped into the screen and punched him in the balls right there, there are several other examples, but I found this to be the most representative.

In my opinion, I think some of these scenes are a little overused, not saying that Cranston doesn't deliver when he has to, but we've seen Walt's irrational behavior so many times before that it's gotten old, at least for those who have been watching the show from day one.



Then again Marie did call it "rocks" on purpose, no wonder given how Hank's dickness has been consistently increasing, but I think we can agree he laid off the annoying asshole role for the remainder of this episode.



I loved that scene, getting our faces rubbed in on what Jesse and Walt did is quite what makes this show unique, it pulls the right punches, it does what it feels it needs to do to make a good show, I remember hearing on other forums how people were openly defending that Jesse didn't kill Gale because we don't see the shot up-front, some people said this would never happen because it would've made the show and the characters completely irredeemable.

I wonder what they're saying now



From the first season I've been waiting for the moment Hank finds out Heisenberg is Walter.

When I see that scene, I shall die a happy man.



The show hasn't touched that subject at all, but if I had to guess what those two think I would pressume they don't consider themselves "morally higher" to those who they supply, they have done so much bad shit between the two that they really aren't going to dictate judgements on anyone.



Aaron Paul delivering ? How odd.

One thing I've loved from this season is that whenever one thinks Jesse has hit bottom, one finds himself to be wrong with each new episode.



I think Mike is going behind Gus' back and give Jesse a harsh lesson, whatever that is, next week shall tell.

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"Shotgun"

After a strong episode in Bullet Points, things settle down. Not much happens in this episode, but there might be some forward momentum found at the end.


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- I was a bit thrown off by the cold open, seeing Walt recklessly tear his way through the streets, trying to get a hold of Saul. But Walt is a tricky guy to peg down. His urgency at first glance seems to be about trying to find Jesse who has gone missing, yet what we know of Walt, and where this season has taken him, he's more concerned about his own safety. He leaves a final message on Skyler's phone, without explicitly saying he might be in danger.

- After Walt and Skyler get it on, Walt is a bit aloof when it comes to the question of him possibly returning home. Seeing him sitting on the edge of the bed, glasses off and getting dressed, there's an air of sordidness about about it all. Like they just met for a quickie in some cheap motel. This feeling is supported by his non committal reaction to Skyler wanting him to come back home. When his son mentions, later, that Walt is going to be coming back home soon, Walt is put off. He's been trying to be in control of his life and now his own wife is trying to make his decisions for him, and keep him out of the loop.

- The scene where Walt tries to cook on his own is in keeping with the theme so far this season of Walt being out of his depth, and being one upped by everyone around him. By his wife with the car wash, and his return home, by Gus and Mike, the women at the chicken restaurant, and now, by this new guy operating the forklift. Just when he thinks he might have the upper hand, or found some loophole, he's brought back down to earth. He needs Jesse, he argues, because this is a two man job. The new guy then operates the forklift, no problem, and Walt is back to square one. Things just aren't going to plan for him. He has consistently been outplayed at every hand.

- Meanwhile, Jesse helps Mike collect bags of cash. Jesse is kind of an infuriating character. He's almost wilfully stupid. We've seen time and again that he's pretty sharp, and is able to get to the point in a way that someone like Walt can not. Yet his carelessness, and his abruptness at informing Walt of his current whereabouts make me want to smack him. Mike eventually gets so tired of him that he makes it clear to him that he isn't "the guy", and that he'll never be "the guy". Like Walt, Jesse has misinterpreted his current situation.

- Going back to Mike, why does he do the job? Isn't he close to retirement? Driving out to the middle of nowhere, putting his life in danger, working with schmucks like Jesse, the job does not seem gratifying.

- I have to admit, I didn't see the twist with Gus coming, although I did wonder why the robbers gave up so easily, and how Jesse was able to outmanoeuvre them. Gus is quite the manipulative bastard. His plan accomplished two things. One, it got Jesse out of the mindset of despair and made him feel like he was capable of doing something important again. And two, it puts into place a possible wedge between Jesse and Walt. Now, Jesse is the one with plans of his own, and Walt is out of the loop.

- Walt is becoming just as careless as Jesse, coming dangerously close to making Hank believe he is Heisenberg. Hearing Hank speak with such admiration of a man who Walt considers to be his own inferior, makes Walt bristle. Walt arrogantly dismisses Hank's feelings on Gale, and puts the idea into Hank's head that Heisenberg may still be out there after all. A very stupid move as Hank had pretty much thought the case was now closed. It's hard to read what Hank was thinking while sitting at the dinner table, if he just thought Walt was letting the wine go to his head. But we see Hank later on, in new spirits, going over the case file, and finding a connection.

Hard to believe there's only four episodes left.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Absolutely loved last nights episode! Best one so far, I think.

And there's 13 episodes this season, t3cii, meaning there's 6 episodes left.

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Ah, you're right. I had been looking at Breaking Bad's wikipedia page to find the name of the episode, and noticed they had 4 more episode titles. That would have been a very short season.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Well season one was only 7 episodes long due to the writers strike!

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"Cornered"

Not much to say about this one. I feel like less happens on this show, than on Mad Men, a show that also moves at a leisurely pace. I guess that's something to get used to, but I don't feel like I can really dig into it like I did with Mad Men, or Lost, or even the Waking Dead. Not a bad episode, but not as good as "Bullet Points".


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- It's funny that Walt should quote the Godfather, as I'm currently reading the Godfather Returns, by Mark Winegardner. Like Walt, Michael was a law abiding citizen when wanting to come to his family's aid pulled him into a life of crime. The problem is Walt is no Michael Corleone. Michael may have started out rejecting joining the family business, but ultimately he realized he was made for such a business, and tried to use it as a way to achieve legitimacy for his family. In the end, Michael lost or killed those closest to him, so by the end of the second film, he's left alone with the choices he made, and what might have been had he not went down that road. It's Michael's bad choices that Walt should remember. Michael gained success, and power, but lost his family. And Walt is in danger of losing his.

- Walt's biggest weakness is his arrogance. He doesn't seem to realize the mistake he made when suggesting to Hank (missing in action the first time this season) that he might have the wrong man. His own wife realizes this, and she's half right to think he wants to get caught. What he wants is recognition.

- When talking to Jess, Walt makes a funny but arrogant comment that it's "all about me". He says it like he's come to a startling realization, but it's not all about him. He's able to realize that Jesse is being used, and that the robbery was probably a set up, and that Gus is trying to drive a wedge between them. But he's pushing Jesse away from him, his only ally. Walt not only wants recognition, he wants to recapture the power he had over Gus, however briefly it was. He should be happy they're still alive.

- Mike begins to see potential in Jesse, and this could be dangerous for Walt. It's hard to read Mike, as he seems gruff, but alright. He grins when Jesse tricks the junkie into digging the whole. Jesse has more in common with Mike than Walt. Mike won't talk down to Walt, but he will try to make Jesse see things as how they really are.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Is anyone besides me still watching? Great episode tonight.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Of course I am! My God, tonight's episode was amazing. The intensity of the whole thing was almost too much to handle. The flashback scene with Gus and Hector ... Holy shit. Crazy good.

I loved this episode, incredible stuff.

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= Me after tonight's episode.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

My god you're yellow.

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I don't tan well.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

You're doing little to disprove the theory that you are indeed Milhouse.

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Also, what inspired you to visit the thread?

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

I visit all threads. I've just never had anything to say on this thread, to my knowledge. I think it may be due to the fact that I've never seen Breaking Bad.


Fix'd.

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"Bug"

While not as good as the previous episode, the final 5 minutes are some of the most brutal and emotional of the season. A line in the sand has been drawn. I wonder how Walt is going to get himself out of this one?


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- We see the return of a somewhat irritating Hank. It's kind of pathetic to see him sulk about Walt not joining him on his "trips". And it also makes Hank look like a manipulative prick. He laughs, and adds the occasional "buddy" when the two drive to the restaurant, but what the two are doing isn't quite legal, and Hank should know better not to drag Walt into his mess. Hank is closer to the truth than he thinks, but like Walt has been more much of this season, he's out of his element.

- Skyler plays a bigger role in this episode, and she's actually quite brilliant. In a stroke of genius, she plays a dumb blonde and get's her friend (former lover? I haven't been watching that long) out of trouble. She's smarter than she lets on, but the scene at the end with her looking at the money is just asking for trouble.

- Gus is the Terminator. That's why he's so cool and collected. Even though he is untouchable to the cartel, walking into sniper fire takes balls. You're basically just relying on the sniper not to accidentally hit you.

- Aaron Paul continues to shine this season. His mini freak out when telling Walt what Gus has plans for him was great.

- It's also always great to see Mike put Walt in his place. Walt isn't a badass. Mike is. And Mike is tired of putting up with Walt's bullshit.

- I think whatever sympathy Walt might have had has been destroyed thanks to his fight with Jesse. Unsympathetic protagonists are nothing new, just look at Tony Soprano. But I find he's just so unlikable that I was rooting for Jesse to beat the shit out of him. Instead, they beat the shit out of each other. In Walt's case, he had it coming. Walt has started to lose touch with humanity. When Jesse killed Gale, it was to save Walt's life, and his own. Now, Walt fails to see how Jesse might not be able to kill Gus. To him, Jesse just has to get in a room with Gus, and drop that thing into his drink. Walt sees this as self preservation, but he fails to see the effect it has on Jesse. Yes, Jesse killed Gale, but it's something that haunts him. Jesse has a conscious. Does Walt? I've never considered this before, but is Walt a psychopath? Why isn't he able to appreciate the consequences of killing someone? I can understand it's about self preservation, but even if my life were on the line, I don't know how easy it would be for me to kill someone. I assume that Walt's cancer is back. If that's the case, we should get a scene with him explicitly saying it's back. I think he needs whatever sympathy he can get.

- Finally, Walt's biggest mistake is treating Jesse not like a partner, but like a lackey. He has been relying on instilling fear into Jesse, fear that the both of them could wind up dead. But why should Jesse want to stick with Walt? Walt doesn't appreciate what Jesse has done for him. And now Mike and Gus have given Jesse a sense of real responsibility. Jesse is no longer on the bottom rung of the ladder, that spot is reserved for Walt. And since Gus is a business man, it's no longer certain that he'd kill Jesse in retaliation for what Jesse and Walt did last season. Jesse has now become the reliable one. Walt is now the liability.

- "Can you walk? Then get the fuck out of my house and never come back". And with that, the partnership of Walter White and Jesse Pinkman is over.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

You don't fuck with Gustavo Fring. You fuck with Gustavo Fring you wish you no fuck with Gustavo Fring.



feliciano, Bernie, I hope you guys are watching 'cause shit just got real.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Another classic "Holy shit" episode of Breaking Bad. Stunning stuff, really. The next week will be a truly painful wait. Fuuu-

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It started off a bit dull, but the final 7 or 8 minutes made up for it. I feel I'd rather spend more time on Jesse, Gus and Mike than on Walt at this point, especially when it seems like Walt has been stuck in one spot for most of this season.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

I dunno, the parts with Walt were great. Because it's almost the first time all this season where you really feel sympathetic for the guy. All season he's been kind of a dick, as is the point at this point in the show, but it was nice to see that he actually does feel really bad for how he's been treating Jesse this season. It was nice to see Walt and Junior have their conversations, especially about Walt's Dad.

Of course, the ending was the highlight. I've yet to see it again but people are saying that Mike was about to shoot Jesse before the henchman interrupted and shot Mike, did you notice that t3cii?

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