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Iron Man 3 is a really good movie, I'm not really a review writer so I'm just going to talk though the events of the film and what I thought of them.

[Firstly, the movie starts with Tony Stark narrating, in past tense, with a black screen like he's telling the audience the story of the movie, during which it cuts to the shot of his hall of armours blowing up from the trailer, this is before we even get the Marvel logo, which is a pretty cool way to open the film, then comes the flashback to new years 1999, when Tony is with Maya Hansen and Happy (who they have made look like he is emulating John Travolta from Pulp Fiction which is very funny to see XD) at a conference/new years party at a hotel in Swizerland. We also get an awesome cameo from Shaun Toub as Yinsen, who tries talking to Tony, but is politely-ish brushed off, so we get to their meeting that he mentioned in the first film which was awesome.
This is also where we are introduced to Aldritch Killian, who is at this point, your cliche 90s nerd, long greasy hair big glasses, he is trying to get Tony to work with his new company.... AIM. Tony not so politely brushes him off with a lie and an excuse, saying he'll speak to him later. Needless to say, he doesn't, he is with Maya in her room, where she shows Tony Extremis, which she is working on. happy touches a plant which Maya tell him "she doesn't like" then Tony and Maya go into the bedroom leaving happy in the main room, where he spitefully breaks a bit off the plant, before following the two into the bedroom, we see the bit of the plant grow back. Then there is a loud explosion, Happy dives on Tony thinking it is a bomb or gunshot, and Maya says not to worry "it's just a glitch", and we see that the explosion was the plant, and it has partially destroyed part of the hotel room with a small but extremely destructive blast radius.

Present Day: Tony is in his workshop working on his prototype for the Mk 42 suit, which is the one we have seen a lot of, and is the main suit of the film, he has injected himself with stuff so the suit can track him, each pert of the suit can fly on it's own accord and follows Tony's orders, and fly onto him at will, but that was mostly all in the trailers.
It turns out at this point, Tony has been working for 72 hours. Jarvis suggests he stops and when he does, he finds out that there have been a bunch of terrorist attacks by The Mandarin, but you know, what's Tony going to do? What can he do?

Cut to Happy and Peeper at Stark Industries HQ, it turns out Happy is new Head of Security, (apparently being Iron Man's body guard was kind of embarrassing) and we get some comic relief with Happy being really really over enthusiastic about his new job. Happy walks Pepper to her office, where Aldritch Killian is waiting, it turns out that they have some sort of history (although this scene is the only scene in the movie that makes any reference to it) and Aldritch has charm turned up to full, he is no longer a bespectacled nerd, his is the smart guy from the trailers. He basically gives Pepper the chance to join AIM in creating Extremis, and Pepper turns him down because Extremis is "too weaponisable". Happy also sees a suspicious guy (Savin, who is basically the main "henchman" of the movie) who is waiting for Killian.

Pepper goes home to Tony and is greeted by him in his new suit. Apparently is it Date Night, and pepper flirts with Tony in the suit, but Tony is acting a bit weird. Pepper goes downstairs to investigate, and it turns out he is controlling the suit remotely (using that weird headband thing you see in the trailers) whilst still doing other stuff, this pisses Pepper off, but Tony comes clean and tells her that "New York" basically fucked him up in the head. Pepper lets him off the hook and invites him to have a shower.

Later Tony is having nightmares and accidentally calls his new suit who comes up to the room and grabs Pepper, this pisses Pepper off again (this is pretty indicative of Pepper and Tony's relationship all through this movie which seems like an interesting dynamic but it gets old pretty fast.), Tony makes the suit fall apart with a hand gesture.

Now we go back to Happy, who is having a hotdog in LA at the Chinese Theatre, he spots Savin again, selling a briefcase to some junkie looking guy, and Happy bumps into the junkie making him drop the briefcase, and Happy steals something from inside it, Savin then confronts Happy and then the junkie guy blows up. Happy is caught in the blast, but not fatally so, he uses his last ounce of strength to point at some dog tags in the floor. Savin then just walks away from the explosion, healing himself using Extremis, This scene is pretty awesome.]

Will post more later,

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That explains the scene with 'IM' grabbing Pepper in bed that we saw in the trailers.

Cool. Many thanks.

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[Just realised, i forgot to mention a scene earlier which takes place before Pepper goes home to Tony, where Tony and Rhodey are in a bar talking about the Mandarin attacks, some kids come up with some pictures for him to sign, and they are talking about New York, Tony goes funny and stumbles out of the bar into his waiting suit where Jarvis tells him that he is having an anxiety/panic attack

Now Happy is comatose in hospital, Tony visits, to see his pal, and is decidedly not happy about it, he tells the nurse to make sure that they put Downton Abbey on the TV for him, he then leaves the hospital to a Media circus, this is the clip we see in the trailer where Tony says about good old fashioned revenge. He gets in his car and drives off. this is a nice scene because it is where Tony's motivation for the movie is, whereas the first 2 movies were about self defence and preventing other people from misusing suit technology, this time, it's personal.

Tony goes home and does some CSI stuff with holograms of the scene of the bombing, finding that happy was pointing at some dogtags, so this gives Tony a hunch that the military must be involved this is pretty much a massive suspension of disbelief that you just have to deal with. Tony then does some stuff comparing the mandarin's bombings with other explosions finding all the Mandarin bombings have left no evidence of a bomb and that the explosions are always 3000 Kelvin, he cross references this with all other explosions in the US and finds one from before the Mandarin showed up in Tennessee, he asks Jarvis to plot a flight course, and then the doorbell rings.

Maya has shown up and tells Tony that his life in in danger, and that she thinks that her boss is working for the Mandarin,

Cue His house getting shot up from the trailers, awesome action scene, Tony summons his new suit to go onto Pepper for some reason, she saves Maya, and then when they are both safe Tony summons the suit back (the suit flying around never stops being awesome), he gets pulled underwater and almost drowns, ends up falling unconscious but manages to get out before hand, however at this point, everyone thinks Tony is dead. This gives the most famous person on the planet a bit of freedom.

Pepper and Maya are in a car, talking and Maya tells pepper that her boss is Aldritch Killian, Pepper is pretty shocked by this obviously.

Tony wakes up in the snow (oh yeah did i mention the whole movie takes place in the week leading up to Christmas?) it turns out that Jarvis followed his last request and took him to Tennessee, the problem is, the flight has drained all but a tiny percent of the suit's power. Tony gets out of the suit just in time before it dies. Hence why we see Tony pulling the suit through the snow in the trailer.

Tony finds a workshop, somehow, where he thinks he can fix and recharge the suit, then some kid shows up, this kid is pretty important, he's basically Tony's sidekick from this point on. Tony also leaves a message for Pepper in some stark servers, which pepper receives via finding a helmet in the ruins of the house which is beeping, and she puts it on and receives the message, so she knows he's alive.

He does some poking around and finds the explosions site, which is the crater thing with burned shadows and flowers that have been placed you see in the trailer, it turns out 6 people died, including the supposed bomber, who was an Iraq veteran that apparently killed himself, Tony notices there are only 5 shadows burned on the walls.this is when he theorises that he blew up rather than having a bomb.

Maya and Pepper are in a hotel room talking, then Killian turns up and attacks Pepper. Pepper tells Maya to run but dun dun dunnnn, Maya is in Cahoots with Killian! she only tried saving Tony's life because she believes he is the only guy that can perfect Extremis. anyway, now Pepper is kidnapped.

Tony hunts down the mother of the dead soldier, finding her in a bar, it turns out she is waiting for someone, and thinks that Tony is that person, she gives him her sons military file and Tony flicks through it, sees a page that says MIA,and tells her his theory about her son not being responsible for the bomb, before being arrested by a lady who has been given Extremis, they fight, she wants the file, but Tony has already signalled the mother to hide the file in the bar, the fight/chase goes on for a bit before Tony manages to blow her up in a kitchen full of gas, he is then attacked by her backup, Savin, who uses his Extremis power to melt the leg of a water tower and crush Tony, Tony gets trapped under it, but uses a tiny single use repulsor that he has up his sleeve on Savin which gives Tony time to escape, with the help of his kid friend. Tony recovers the file and has a better look at at, realising that MIA was AIM on a reversed page.

Tony phones Rhodey, who has an AIM login because Ion Patriot was made by AIM or something, and when the news crews arrive to cover the explosion Tony sneaks into a news van and tries getting into AIM's servers, there's this bit about the bandwidth not being enough and he enlists the help of a member of the news crew (who just happens to be completely obsessed with Tony, complete with crap looking tattoo), and anyway, Tony gets in and finds the stuff about Extremis, and finds a bunch of video of Killian using Extremis on paraplegic Iraq veterans, he then has his suspicions confirmed when he sees one of the experiments go wrong and a test subject explodes.]

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So far, so good - though the part about dog tags sounds like Tony finding the new element in IM2..

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Oh my God, I want to highlight this shit so bad.

Giiiiiiive iiiiiiiiinnnnnn.... Dooooooo it... You know you WANT TO!

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Right now it´s too late, but tomorrow I´m gonna post here my thoughts, and disclaimer, I´m not gonna hide anything. Shit, this is a spoiler thread...

I went into a lot of detail scene by scene so I was giving people more of a chance to not give into temptation.

Anyway

[Rhodey/Iron Patriot is on a mission to a supposed Mandarin hideout, when he gets there it is a sweatshop full of women in Burkas, they think he has rescued them and he awkwardly receives their thanks, then one comes up to him and subdues him, it is a women Extremis subject.

At this point Tony is officially dead, Happy is in a coma, and both Pepper and Rhodey are captured by AIM/The Mandarin

Tony leaves Tennessee to go to Miami which is where he discovered that The Mandarin is, he says goodbye to the kid and I think he steals a car, i can't remember off the top of my head how he gets it.

So he's on his way to Miami and he phones the kid to check how his suit is getting on (it is recharging at this point) he has another panic attack, the kid tells him to build something to get his mind of it, so Tony goes to a hardware store and buys a shit load of stuff, then there's a cool montage of him making weapons out of random shit, which is very fun.

Tony gets to Miami, the the Mansion the mandarin is hiding out it, and fights his way through a bunch of guards,

This if the bit that will possibly piss some people off.

Tony works his way into the master bedroom of the mansion and finds a bed with 2 ladies in it, we then hear Ben Kingsley.... with a thick London accent

it turns out The Mandarin is just an English actor, that fell on hard times and drug addiction. was picked up by AIM and asked to play a part, the part of The Mandarin, in return he got to live a life of luxury full of women and drugs. he is completely unaware that he is not just playing a part in a movie or TV show or something, he does not realise any of the stuff he is doing is real. Once all this exposition is done, Stark gets captured.

Meanwhile, Killian is trying to get Rhodey out of Iron Patriot, he eventually gives up, succeeds and sends Savin in the suit to escort the President on Air Force One.

Tony is cuffed somewhere in the mansion, and Killian reveals that he has given Pepper Extremis, which is pretty painful, and has a high chance of being explosively fatal. Killian leaves and then Stark banters with his guards, his watch starts beeping, and Tony asks one of them how far away Tennessee is, apparently one of them knows off the top of his head (???) and Tony waits a few seconds, before starting to make random hand signals, after a minute of his guards being really confused, a gauntlet and a boot fly through the wall, Tony fights hig guards, and a few other henchmen, and wonders where the rest of his suit is, we cut to Tennessee, and apparently they can't get out of the workshop, (not enough run up to break through the wooden door maybe?) so the kid lets them out, anyway, the rest of the suit isn't far behind, once the rest of the suit comes

Meanwhile, Killian is trying to get Rhodey out of Iron Patriot, using his hand to heat up Rhodey's belly, he also breathes fire to threaten him, eventually he hears that there is a commotion with Stark, gives up, and leaves. Rhodey uses this opportunity to jump out of the suit, surprising his guards and fights them hand to hand,

So Rhodey and Stark are free and meet up, it turns out that the Mk 42 is a bit broken and doesn't work very well for some reason, they work together to escape the Mansion, first going and getting more information from the Fake Mandarin, who doesn't know very much except something about a ship, and the Vice President. Rhodey phones the Vice President to warn him, and he thanks Rhodey, before hanging up and not doing anything, and then walking over to his daughter, who is a paraplegic!

Now Killian has Iron Patriot, he sends Savin in the suit to Air Force One to escort the president.

On Air force One Savin overpowers the crew and blows a door open, sucking them all out, then he gets to the President

Stark gets to Air Force One using his now-working-fine suit, by following the Iron Patriot, just in time to kill Savin using his chest repulsor at point blank range, and save all the crew that have been thrown out of the plane.

after this Stark flies the suit into a truck accidentally and it shatters to pieces, it turns out he was controlling it remotely, (and that the suit works fine controlled remotely just not when he's in it)

Rhodey and Stark make their way to the docks where i think Jarvis has tracked AIM and more importantly Pepper to, by tracking Extremis heat signatures, they spot the iron Patriot suit strung up, with the President in it, above a flaming belly of an Oil Tanker.
They get spotted by guards and have a gunfight, then some Extremis Subjects show up Tony then gets Jarvis to summon backup. much to the surprise of the crew cleaning up at the ruins of his house.

Then the Big Finale fight happens, with loads of suits fighting the extremis subjects, (Tony tells Jarvis to target Extremis heat signatures)
Rhodey makes his way to the President, whilst Tony makes his way to Pepper switching into and out of suits whenever he can/needs to, which is quite cool. whilst this is going on, the entire ship/dock yards is basically getting ripped to shreds.

Rhodey saves the President, of course.

Tony finds Pepper, and she is trapped under some metal, she manages to get free, and she tries to get to Tony, but the ship shifts and she falls hundreds of feet into a flaing pit of oil!!

now Tony is PISSED. hi fights Killian for a while at this point, clearly learning from the Whiplash fight in 2.
Killian's shirt burns off, and you see he has some big black tribal-style Dragon tattoos on his shoulders back and chest that look exactly like Fin Fang Foom.

Tony manages to blow Killian up, but he comes back all burned up, healing himself saying about how he was The Mandarin all along, (well, no shit Sherlock at this point) and then Killian pretty much has Tony on the ropes at this point until.....

Pepper comes and beats the crap out of Killian and kills him. FUCK YEAH.

Once Killian is defeated, one of Tony's suits comes and attacks Pepper before Tony has had a chance to tell Jarvis to not attack her heat signature, she defends herself destroying the suit. HAPPY ENDING. Since everyone is defeated, and it's Christmas and Tony has learned his lesson, he commands Jarvis to run The Clean Slate program, and all his suits blow up like fireworks.

Now the coda,
Tony narrates about how he perfected Extremis and fixed Pepper, also about how he decided to fix himself, we see a scene of surgeons using a powerful electromagnet to remove the rest of his shrapnel, no more chest-piece.
We also see that he gives his kid friend a bunch of cool stuff, he has kitted out his workshop with loads of cool stuff including a little robot and a muscle-car for some reason.
Tony throws his chest piece into the ocean at the site of his old house.

The End

then the after credits scene shows us that his narrating was actually him talking to Banner, lying on a psychiatrists couch, then it turns out Banner has slept through the entire story and that he is "not that type of doctor"

THE END!!!]

In all i have got to say,this is probably one of the best paced movies i have ever seen, it is completely non stop, and it was so great to see Tony get to do some stuff out of the suit,

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[I personally don't mind the Mandarin/Killian thing in the end, Killian is such an awesome character, and his personality and powers are very much like The mandarin in reality, the only difference is where his power comes from and his origins, he really does fit the bill as Tony's ultimate Nemesis in this movie.

As for Tony getting rid of his Chest-piece, that happened a long time ago in the comics anyway, and now Tony has perfected Extremis, I expect if we ever see Stark in more films, he will be utilising extremis, and that will be his power, as opposed to having a battery in his chest, which became obsolete in the second movie anyway.]

oh I realise my "review" turned into a scene by scene account of the movie, to be honest, it helped me get my opinions straight.

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Wow! That's a lot of writing... Thanks very much!

Given that this is a spoiler thread, I'm not going to hide my comments, but I will write "SPOILER" before I proceed...

SPOILER!!!

So, how much time in a suit does Pepper get? Sorry if I misunderstand you, but does she fight Killian in a suit?

Is it the Extremis that allows Pepper to survive the fall and burning?

Do the events at the end suggest that Tony is done Iron Manning, and will never Iron Man again?!

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Only the attack on Stark´s house.

Yes. And she even fights one of Tony´s armors. She´s the one that kills Killian,albeit suitless(only a forearm repulsor beam).


Nah, it only points that he´s turned a new leaf on many aspects.

Well,time to fire some rounds, albeit no play by play comentary like Avatar


The first thing that come my mind is that while the movie seems like a best off of the older movies,there´s also a lot stuff that tries to break the mold. And it starts at the very beggining. The other movies started with some AC/DC because they are badass but also because Tony is a rock star of sorts in these movies, living high life. But then IM3 starts is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc

lulz and wadafuck were ensured.

And the whole movie is full of theses instances. Ty Simpkins plays a kid´s version of Yusef, and the dynamic is very remiscient of IM1, but then you see that some of the respect for bigger players in the other movies disspears when they pull that crap that they did with Kingsley´s character. Just strange...

Now on to my gripes:

-the fucking marketing campaign. All trailers, featurettes and whatnot sold this as a dark movie with the Mandarin,in the form of Kingsley, being the major threat.Couple that with Pearce saying that his role was "just" a cameo.
Im okay with it not being dark, but using Kingsley as a former actor that traded sex for blow in his past, to be hired/tricked by Killian to be the public face of the Mandarin is bullshit of the highest caliber. Even worse is the fact that use the 10 rings imagery, therefere associating this quagmire of a concept to IM1 and IM2, yet we never see Killian saying to Tony that all that was his fault. As it is there a chance that Killian used the Ten Rings as a scapegoat and there is someone else pulling those strings, but the concept of Mandarin is fucked beyond all repair. And while Whiplash/Vanko was expendable, the Mandarin was not. Shit, even Hammer was treated better.

-not enough Iron Patriot. I honestly expected alot more Rhodes/Iron Patriot. As it stands, I ´d say that his presence was equal or smaller then in IM1 and 2.Wich is a shame.


While these are my only gripes, the Mandarin one is pretty big. I would equate it to Batman letting Ra´s die in Batman Begins, in the sense that blemished an otherwise great movie.



Other then that I enjoyed the rest of the movie very much.


-throwback to the older movies. Yusef appearing, his relationship with Stark being emulated by Harley,the 70´s comic book show music/trilogy best off animated credits,Stark getting resourceful when he has nothing to work with.

-More tech. The other suits appearing was awesome. The capaibility to control suits remotely,with is mind was very cool

-Villains,namely Killian and his Extremis soldiers, with Eric Savin and Ellen Brandt as highlights. I dare say the best threat from the 3 movies. The Extremis soldiers had numbers on their side but were not faceless like the drones in IM2 and unworthy oponents like the 10 rings guys from IM1. You can see that by the beating that the Iron Legion took in the climax battle. Brandt was in a cool bit, but Savin was the standout.At the very least as good as Vanko, but taking into account that Savin was a just an henchman. As to Killian, blows Hammer out of the water and is better then Stane.
Really hope that they continue to use normal people with minimal CGI for anmtagonists. Shit would help a Hulk movie very much.

-Speaking of Hulk, Banner doozing off as Tony opens his heart out lol

-taking into account the events in the Avengers and the toll that it took in Stark. Right now suits just don´t cut it,there are aliens and gods out there, and he as faced death first hand when he flew that nuke. And that shit left a mark. Does he try to shrug it off with humor, to not dwelve on that?Yeah, but it still hurt him. Only at the end of the movie does he get normal.

-Pepper getting a bigger role. Really enjoyed that part. Just wished that Extremis had became a permanent part of her or atleast the hint of a suit for her in future movies.

-Shane Black humor.The henchman making fun of Stark reminded me alot of Lethal Weapon.

-Rebecca Hall.Honestly this was a really good move for both parts. Hall participates in one the biggest blockbusters of the summer in a biggish role elevating her profile, but the death of her character makes not using Jessica Chastain a good thing since they can use for a bigger character.

-Bigger scope. Just like Thor 2 seems to be bigger the it´s predecessor,so was this one. The Disney money is being put to good use.

-Harley. Kid was awesome and his dinamic with Stark was among the best parts of the movie.


At the top of my head it´s this. More to come as the movie settles in and I start discussing it with more of you guys and gals after you see it.

no problem

Pepper gets maybe a minute in the suit, she fights Killian using Extremis power mostly.

Yes Extremis is how she survives, because it basically makes you near invincible, and have super-fast healing.

I don't think that the end implies he's going to stop being Iron Man, I think the events at the end merely imply that he is going to go back to the drawing board with the Iron Man concept (hence "clean slate" he's starting from scratch), iirc, I think the last thing he says in the narration is "I Am Iron Man". Basically, I think that he will now be using Extremis as the driving force for his suits rather than Arc Reactor tech. Everyone knows that Tony hasn't needed a chest-piece in the comics for YEARS, and even in the movies, his suits haven't used his personal chest-piece for power since the second movie, him getting rid of it really only highlights the end of an era for Tony and Iron Man, rather than the end of Iron Man altogether.

In case anyone was wondering, Stan Lee's cameo is as a lecherous beauty pageant judge, giving a 10.

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"There's a cello in your house now."

RJ, don't make a mess though okay? Okay.

But like he said, hot damn.
Hot. Damn.

Great flick. Tons of fun.
Yeah, the Ra's Al Ghul trick was played better in Batman Begins and I seriously kinda minded it here.
As far as arch-nemesis villains go: Ben Kingsley > Guy Pearce. I would've loved it if Ben was actually the Mandarin. I mean, why not? You know? He's Ben Fucking Kingsley! You don't hire Ben Fucking Kingsley and then NOT make him the literal main villain.
Not a fan of that twist, but it worked well and Kingsley was enjoyable regardless.
I'm glad they trumped up a comedic angle on the whole actor thing.
Had they played it dead pan flat, that part would've sucked. As it is, it's a gripe... yet it's still fun.
So I can't truly complain. Also, it made sense and it worked seamlessly within the story. Not to mention it really made Killian a devious mastermind. I also did not mind his awesome showdown with Tony. Dem fucking tattoos. Fuckin' A.
I love how much Tony had to do outside of the suit, he had to come to grips with the fact he's NOT just a suit of armor. He's a... genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist, and now a mechanic too. He kicked all the ass.
Furthermore, that kid. Loved that whole angle. Perfect. So goddamn fun and enjoyable.

So much fun this movie is. The after-credits scene was golden as well.

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I know I'm behind the curve on this. I actually saw the movie yesterday, but the weekend has been so crazy that I wasn't able to put up my review until just now. Anyway, here it is.

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ok quick question how did tony get the reactor removed from his chest when it kept him alive in im1 and he nearly died in im2 without it??

but now out of the blue he can just get a surgery to remove it

sorry that was just sloppy writing

He needed the abilities of Extremis for the surgery to be safe.

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Too many jokes, no explanation for the sudden "trauma of NY" (that only he suffers from), mediocre villain (and plot), anti-climatic ending, and since they are including the events of the Avengers, why didn't they call Banner (for example) to help against this crisis?

Watchable movie, but nothing else (IMO).

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