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 Post subject: Re: Ant-Man
PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 1:01 am 
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Well, it's not like Marvel is starting from scratch. At this point, that's not an option. Whoever takes the directing job here, they'll still be working with Wright's script, Wright's cast, Wright's basic concept, and Wright's work on development so far. In many ways, this will always be Wright's movie.

Personally, I think this much like the time when Guillermo Del Toro left The Hobbit -- after trying and failing for so many years to get the film made, the shameful news is only surprising in that it didn't come sooner. The difference here, of course, is that The Hobbit was still in development hell at the time, and Ant-Man was well on its way to a 2016 release.

We'll be lucky if we ever learn the real reason for how and why this happened when it did. Still, we can take comfort with the knowledge that this movie will have Edgar Wright's fingerprints all over it no matter what.

Incidentally, if this means that Wright can jump ship and help DC/WB find a clue, so much the better.

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We'll be lucky if we ever learn the real reason for how and why this happened when it did.

True that. I wonder what could have possibly been such a drastic difference in opinion creatively to make them part ways. I can't even imagine.

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Incidentally, if this means that Wright can jump ship and help DC/WB find a clue, so much the better.

Doubt that'll happen.

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Well, it's not like Marvel is starting from scratch. At this point, that's not an option. Whoever takes the directing job here, they'll still be working with Wright's script, Wright's cast, Wright's basic concept, and Wright's work on development so far. In many ways, this will always be Wright's movie.

Personally, I think this much like the time when Guillermo Del Toro left The Hobbit -- after trying and failing for so many years to get the film made, the shameful news is only surprising in that it didn't come sooner. The difference here, of course, is that The Hobbit was still in development hell at the time, and Ant-Man was well on its way to a 2016 release.

We'll be lucky if we ever learn the real reason for how and why this happened when it did. Still, we can take comfort with the knowledge that this movie will have Edgar Wright's fingerprints all over it no matter what.

Incidentally, if this means that Wright can jump ship and help DC/WB find a clue, so much the better.


2015 release you mean, it is still supposed to come out 14 months from now.

I'm not sure Wright is a fit at DC/WB either. Get him on a TASM 3

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2015 release you mean, it is still supposed to come out 14 months from now.

I'm not sure Wright is a fit at DC/WB either. Get him on a TASM 3

Ah. Of course it's 2016. Though I'll be very surprised if Marvel can still come out with a quality product at this rate.

I'm torn on your Spider-Man idea. I'd love for Wright to direct a Spider-Man movie, I just wouldn't want him to do it for Sony.

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2015 release you mean, it is still supposed to come out 14 months from now.

I'm not sure Wright is a fit at DC/WB either. Get him on a TASM 3

Ah. Of course it's 2016.

Curi just can't type 5.

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Though I'll be very surprised if Marvel can still come out with a quality product at this rate.

I don't even really care anymore. The only reason most anyone gave a damn about the Ant-man film in the first place was because of Edgar Wright.

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We'll be lucky if we ever learn the real reason for how and why this happened when it did.

True that. I wonder what could have possibly been such a drastic difference in opinion creatively to make them part ways. I can't even imagine.

Also, I can actually imagine the situation pretty perfectly by now.

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AvatarIII wrote:
2015 release you mean, it is still supposed to come out 14 months from now.

I'm not sure Wright is a fit at DC/WB either. Get him on a TASM 3

Ah. Of course it's 2016. Though I'll be very surprised if Marvel can still come out with a quality product at this rate.

I'm torn on your Spider-Man idea. I'd love for Wright to direct a Spider-Man movie, I just wouldn't want him to do it for Sony.


It's not like they're starting from scratch, I don't really see how time will affect quality, they probably are well into pre-prod, they just need someone to churn it out, we don't need a visionary, it's too late in the game to be changing that, we just need someone that can do what they are told, competently, and efficiently. I saw some articles suggesting just get someone that directs Agent's of SHIELD to do it, and you know what, why not? A TV director would be perfect!

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AICN is reporting that Adam McKay got the job.

So Marvel chose a hit-making director with his own production company and a work history with the lead actor, instead of some no-name TV director who would take orders. Looks to me like Marvel dug themselves into such a deep hole that they need some considerable help getting out of it.

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not so fast Curi
Apparently he has essentially said "thanks but no thanks"
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-v ... man-708450

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 Post subject: Re: Ant-Man
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Well,seems like what brought upon the split was changes in the script made by Marvel writers that were unsanctioned by Wright or Cornish.
That being said, what also transpired is that Ant-Man was supposed to go into filming in 2011, but Marvel gave Wright another reprive so that he could do The World´s End first for his friend Eric Fellner( one of the producers of the movie,had been diagnosed with cancer). Gotta be honest, a bit of leeway from Wright would have been apreciated.


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Gotta be honest, a bit of leeway from Wright would have been apreciated.

They butchered his script, though.

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not so fast Curi
Apparently he has essentially said "thanks but no thanks"
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-v ... man-708450

...WOW.

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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ ... /?a=101244

Things aren´t exactly looking up. Shame that they can´t wing it and turn that slot into a Hulk movie.


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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=101244

Things aren´t exactly looking up. Shame that they can´t wing it and turn that slot into a Hulk movie.

I'd kill for a Planet Hulk movie with Mark Ruffalo.

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RuiBK wrote:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=101244

Things aren´t exactly looking up. Shame that they can´t wing it and turn that slot into a Hulk movie.


Shame they can't just go back to Edgar Wright.

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RuiBK wrote:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=101244

Things aren´t exactly looking up. Shame that they can´t wing it and turn that slot into a Hulk movie.

I'd kill for a Planet Hulk movie with Mark Ruffalo.


Honest question since you didn´t use purple. Are you serious?


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RuiBK wrote:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=101244

Things aren´t exactly looking up. Shame that they can´t wing it and turn that slot into a Hulk movie.

I'd kill for a Planet Hulk movie with Mark Ruffalo.


Honest question since you didn´t use purple. Are you serious?

Yeah. I don't see why one would be incredulous towards me wanting a Hulk movie based on a quality Hulk story.

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It´s just that I see a Planet Hulk/World War Hulk as something that should be done after multiple Hulk movies,not before we get a decent solo movie.

Plus, apart from voice acting and some mocap, Rufallo would be underused.


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It´s just that I see a Planet Hulk/World War Hulk as something that should be done after multiple Hulk movies,not before we get a decent solo movie.

They already tried that twice, though, and delivered mediocre films both times. Do we really need another standard Hulk runs away from the military and fights a bad guy film?

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Plus, apart from voice acting and some mocap, Rufallo would be underused.

Yeah, unless, y'know, they wrote it differently.

Like an adaptation.

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It´s just that I see a Planet Hulk/World War Hulk as something that should be done after multiple Hulk movies,not before we get a decent solo movie.

They already tried that twice, though, and delivered mediocre films both times. Do we really need another standard Hulk runs away from the military and fights a bad guy film?

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Plus, apart from voice acting and some mocap, Rufallo would be underused.

Yeah, unless, y'know, they wrote it differently.

Like an adaptation.


If they can´t get their shit straight in the simplest of settings, how will the tackle the "universal gladiator that starts a revolution, then comes to earth to fuck shit up" set up well?

The way I see it we can move past the military pursuit after the first Avengers. If Hulk is still a hero after Age of Ultron, they could just bring in a faction interested in his abilities. The Leader and the Abomination are out there, as also AIM or Hydra.


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Crazy idea: What if Clark Gregg directed the movie? He's a talented writer/director, and tightly linked with Marvel to boot.

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