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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:37 pm 
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Ok, so I've just read Watchmen and thought it lived up to expectations, and can't wait for the movie...

But, what graphic novel would people suggest I read next. As a Batman fan I'm thinking Killing Joke or soemthing.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:43 pm 
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Killing Joke is great. I'd recommend Marvels or Kingdom Come, espcecially if your faniliar with the heros that span the Marvel and DC universes. If you like dark, check out Preacher. Or pick one of the books from this thread.

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I suggest Sandman, though it takes a little while to really get rolling. But once it does, it's immensely satisfying.

It's available as 10 collected editions and a couple specials/graphic novels. But overall it's very cohesive and tells a wonderful story.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:10 am 
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Cheers guys.

I probably should have looked a bit harder and found the 'graphic novel hall of fame' post.

Anyway ... your recommendations have been greatly appreciated.
I will begin my search immediately.

It's funny, I'd never even heard of Kingdom Come, but sounds awesome.
Very Watchmenesque, but no harm in that.

I've had a bit of a look on wikipedia and Preacher sounds interesting to say the least, especially the character Arseface.
I hope it's not a bummer. (Bad pun intended)

Thanks again.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:11 am 
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I am not a fan of the super-hero graphic novels. I just can't get into them the way I can other novels. I love illustrated novels and would recommend these as good alternatives if someone wants to go outside their comfort zone. I came into Watchmen from my attempt to read all the 100 times best novels and write an article about it. So far I am on ten. Ninety more to go.

This isn't to say that traditional comics aren't good. I just know they aren't for everyone. Also in keeping with my normal reading traditions, there will be no clowes or speigleman on this list because I am sure everyone has told you to read them already.

The Rabbi's Cat: A smart ass cat that gains the ability to talk after swallowing a parrot. It's a great view of jewish life in morocco and France in the 1920s. I can't recommend this enough. Its emotionally charged and surprisingly philosophical.

The jungle: Upton Sinclair, adapted by Peter Kuper: The only way to read the meat packing nightmare of a muckraking making reform. What all journalists and people with agendas should aspire to produce. You will feel like you have walked into a socialist propaganda poster.

Griffin and Sabine: by nick bantock. This is a correspondence that turns into a mystery of people who disappear in and out of our lives. It will also give you hope for the lost art of writing letters and postcards. This is a graphic novel, perhaps not the kind you are used to...so be forewarned.

Fun Home: A Family Tragicomic by Alison Bechdel: if you have read this then you will know why this is here. It's author was trying to make an American perseopolis and succeeded...well sort of.

After Man: An Anthropology of the Future: By Dougal Dixion...there is nothing out there else like this book and this is a really trippy book. I got it as a kid and loved it. First graphic novel besides the old jack Kirby stuff dad read to me as a bed time story.

Franz Kafka's Metamorphosis. There is a stellar graphic novel adaption of this, that adds a dimension of coffee stained eastern European political cartoonist to the literary masterpiece.

Lover's Path: Kris Waldherr. Not my normal reading but does a stunning job of portraying an renaissances era romance, a real romance not the swiped off the feet nonsense.

Castaways: Removes the need to see the road to perdition, shawshank redemption or any other movie in the dramatic 1930s hard times narrative. Has nothing to do with the grapes of wrath but feels like it should.

Flood eric drooker. You will drown in this death of a city and an artists rendition of his own life's narrative.

Deogratias, A Tale of Rwanda: Dont ask just read.

Tribulation Force Graphic Novel: As a christian I must say...YOU WILL LAUGH SO HARD AT HOW BAD THIS IS.

Y: Last Man was good but you've heard of that and fables was okay. I didn't really get into them.

There is another one called Eva or Ava I think. Its about Africa in the 1970s, a window into the hip suburban Africa the western world likes to pretend doesn't exist. If you want "literary" I would try barbra hodgeson. Not my speed but she is unheard of in most of the websites I have looked at, her work is lushly illustrated but trite in some of her prose. Really full of herself.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:54 am 
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Id suggest quite afew Graphic Novels,none are as great as Watchmen,but alot are pretty awesome.
I wouldnt call The Killing Joke a Graphic Novel,it should take you no less then 30-45 mins to read,but it is good.
Some you should read:
Preacher.
Walking Dead.
Y:The Last Man.
Sandman.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:43 am 
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Just picked up Marvel 1602 at the comics library in town. Can't wait to read that one. Gaiman is usually a great read.

I'll be borrowing From Hell as soon as I can, too.

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Maus, by Art Spiegelman, although that one may be too grim for your taste. For something lighthearted, Bone, by Jeff Smith is available, all 9 novels collected in one book.

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If you are interested in Sandman but the 10 books seems too much to read, start reading "Endles Nights", a very good introduction to the Sandman universe. It's a beautiful book with 7 stories, each one dedicated to one of the "eternals" and drawn by a different comic artist. The chapter dedicated to Dream (Sandman), drawn by spanish Miquelanxo Prado is wonderful.
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I've also heard of a graphic novel called We3, by Grant Morrison. It's supposed to be very good. Anyone else heard of that?

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Curiosity Inc. wrote:
I've also heard of a graphic novel called We3, by Grant Morrison. It's supposed to be very good. Anyone else heard of that?

Yes, I've read it. Its really a surprisingly short read, but its really good. Its definitely a devastatingly sad story if you're a pet owner (or lover); the main characters are three animals (a dog, a cat, and a rabbit) that have been mutilated by the military into war machines and the story is basically their attempt at escaping that life. Its sort of like Homeward Bound meets Robocop. Its a very short and simple story, but I say its definitely worth the read.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:15 pm 
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The proposed movie script is incredibly faithful, too. No such worries where We3 is concerned...


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CLINT FLICKER wrote:
The proposed movie script is incredibly faithful, too. No such worries where We3 is concerned...

As one of Don Murphy's online followers, I can assure you that We3 is in very good hands. That's actually why I asked about We3 to begin with.

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Infinity Crisis is also a very good read for a Batman/Superman/Teen Titan/Justice League fan. Yes, you have to be a fan of mainly Superman and Supergirl to connect with most of the story.


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has anyone read 'Hard Boiled' by Frank Miller and Geof Darrow? I was drawn into wanting to read it because of the artwork, detail and ultra-violent. I have a weak stomach, but great art work is still a joy to watch.

Furthermore, has anyone read 'Give me liberty'? Art work from Gibbons himself.

Need more graphic novels where i'm from!

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I have Hard Boiled (the three mags). And Give me Liberty. :)

Saw Darrow/Miller's book about that big robot yesterday. Going to read that soon.

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so Soup D, would you recommend Hard Boiled?

remember, i have a weak stomach. :oops:

i read that it was the mos violent comic to come out at the time, has any comic book overtook that title? or can anyone suggest?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:27 am 
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As I have mentioned before, the story isn't very deep. So there isn't a lot in that department to hold up many re-reads. Darrow's artwork is mind-boggling, however, and there are some great looking cars in there. Lots to look at!

It's very brutal, though. But way over the top. After the first few pages you won't notice it. Blood is mostly in black.

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guess i have to buck up and just read it gung ho! :D

thanks Soup D.

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"Soup" or "Soupy" is fine. :)

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