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Simon Hurt should totally be higher.

And James Gordon Jr. needs to be on there somewhere.


Starting with him at #50 is already a BAD sign.


Once it got to the top 3 I was right there, Catwoman, Ra's, and Joker deserved to be right at the top... I would have moved Bane up and Riddler down... but it's not my list, now, is it?

Still... how the hell did Grendel make this list?!?! Matt Wagner's original stuff was great... but it was published by Dark Horse, I highly doubt that makes him a Batman Villain...

Yeah, I've already commented on that but it still pisses me off...

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
Once it got to the top 3 I was right there, Catwoman, Ra's, and Joker deserved to be right at the top... I would have moved Bane up and Riddler down... but it's not my list, now, is it?

Still... how the hell did Grendel make this list?!?! Matt Wagner's original stuff was great... but it was published by Dark Horse, I highly doubt that makes him a Batman Villain...

Yeah, I've already commented on that but it still pisses me off...


Catwoman was there ? *facepalm*

About Grendel, if this list proved anything is that "Batman having an awesome rogue gallery" is nowhere near the same as "Batman has dozens of awesome villains".

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Catwoman was there ? *facepalm*


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feliciano182 wrote:
About Grendel, if this list proved anything is that "Batman having an awesome rogue gallery" is nowhere near the same as "Batman has dozens of awesome villains".


My main problem with Mr. Rose's inclusion is that he isn't a batman villain, he isn't even a DC character... That's like saying Kingpin is a Batman villain because there were two Daredevil crossovers...

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
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Catwoman was there ? *facepalm*


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For starters, she's not a villain.

No Brooklyn, she's not.

And personally ? Catwoman sucks, she has been doing so for the past twenty years, and it looks she might be doing so for the next twenty, she is stuck in this horrible time-loop and she really shows no sign of evolving as a character.

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For starters, she's not a villain.

No Brooklyn, she's not.


She started as a villain...

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
She started as a villain...


As did Hawkeye, do we count him on villain lists as well ?

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She started as a villain...


As did Hawkeye, do we count him on villain lists as well ?


Yeah, but he doesn't really count because now he's a true hero, she is still a thief and generally shows poor character traits.

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Yeah, but he doesn't really count because now he's a true hero, she is still a thief and generally shows poor character traits.


That's called "anti-hero".

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Yeah, but he doesn't really count because now he's a true hero, she is still a thief and generally shows poor character traits.


That's called "anti-hero".


True, but Hawkeye is a straight up hero, so your analogy was flawed.

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True, but Hawkeye is a straight up hero, so your analogy was flawed.


Nope, Catwoman is not a villain, Hawkeye is not a villain.

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