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Thats exactly who I meant. The only characters death who I thought was done vaguely accurately was Plastinov's in my opinion.

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Finally read this. Here's my first impressions:

1. The art sucks. It's sloppy, inconsistent, and just looks like Lloyd couldn't care less. It was like all he had was a four year old felt tip marker and decided, "fuck it, I'll use this" and then drew everything as fast as he could. My hat is off to Alan Moore, because if it wasn't for his prose, I would have put it down 30 pages in.

2. The story. Definitely a little confusing, but that's Moore. I think if Lloyd's art was more consistent it would have been easier for me to remember who was who by sight, but most characters looked different panel to panel. Like Watchmen, I think V for Vendetta has some stand out chunks or chapters that are probably some of the best writing in comics. I know I need to let it sink in a re-read it. Had to with Watchmen, so all is forgiven there. What I understood, I liked.

So, after first read, I give it a 3 out of 5.

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Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music - George Carlin

I'm gonna go and defend Lloyd simply because his introduction to the TPB is fucking awesome.

Lloyd's art gets hurt because a lot of the usual habits of Moore, the small panels, the lack of size variety between them, the choice of the color palette. Moore has deffinitely improved now, but back in the 80's he had a lot of troubles with page distribution.

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I have to agree with this, although the art's not my favorite, I don't think it was THAT bad.

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@RealSlimCAvery

I thought the art made it better. Maybe it's because I have such good eyesight..

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I don't get why people bash the art. It fits the tone of the book perfectly, and besides there's so much more that goes into a comic book's art than its style. You wouldn't say a film director was bad just because he used a lens you don't like.

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In point of fact, Lloyd was the initial driving force behind V For Vendetta, having specifically been commissioned by the editorship of UK Warrior comic to devise a new character/strip for the publication; Lloyd himself suggested Moore be his collaborator hence the writer came on board at the chosen artist's behest. Under such circumstances, I would imagine that Lloyd pretty much had artistic free reign (he devised V's distinctive appearance and suggested the absence of traditional speech bubbles) and would have formatted the artwork as he saw fit. Furthermore, V For Vendetta was originally drawn and printed solely in black and white in Warrior, only being 'colourised' by DC when reissued and then concluded three years after original publication.

In criticizing Lloyd's choice of art style, I am by no means discounting the man's talent or his role as a pivotal creative force in the crafting of the character of V or his heavy contribution to the development of the story. In fact, the design of the character of V is brilliant, and Lloyd's cover art very attractive.

I am aware that DC colorized the original art, and the reason I took so long to read the book was because I have been trying to find a copy in the original black and white. I think keeping the book in black and white would have helped the art, but it wouldn't have help Lloyd's choice of "too thick" lines and a style that looked like it was drawn in haste with little care.

I don't think Moore can be blamed, because Gibbons had to deal with the same idiosyncrasies and crafted a seamless product.

To me, in order for a graphic novel to be a tour de force, the story and the art must be both equally exceptional and complement each other. Watchmen, Maus, Marvels, Palestine - to name a few, fit those criteria. V for Vendetta does not.

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Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music - George Carlin

Even the idea of V came from Lloyd, Moore was checking one of the latter's journals and found a paragraph where he said they shouldn't burn Guy Fawkes on every 5th of November, but rather they should be thanking him for the attempt.

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Alan Moore the Movie was overrated.

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it's worth a watch, if you have a spare £6.50 lying around
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0025V4U0S/r ... B0025V4U0S

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We're all actors, Laurie. I'm just an actor who read the script.

I was actually referring to the lauded Simpsons spin-off in which he fought crime with Art Spiegelman and Daniel Clowes.



Rubbish.

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Jolly japery aside, the Alan Moore film is actually on its way...

Wow, a picture with a bunch of WCM memes and not a single one that I've created.
i dont get it

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Say, Doc, did I ever tell you I'm the only metal that's liquid at room temperature?

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I can't help but feel like your choice of picture and the use of the name B.J. Novak are some how supposed to be connected...

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@RealSlimCAvery

no

i don't think i can make it more sarcastic

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We're all actors, Laurie. I'm just an actor who read the script.

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Say, Doc, did I ever tell you I'm the only metal that's liquid at room temperature?