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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:28 pm 
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To be fair, Aaron wasn't working towards any redemption between those two.


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He wasn't, there's a difference between what you want, and what's going to happen.


I'll admit I'm extremely biased... but you honestly don't think he was working any redemption angle between them?

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
I'll admit I'm extremely biased... but you honestly don't think he was working any redemption angle between them?


I can't get inside Jason Aaron's head and pretend that I know for sure what he was attempting, but there was nothing indicating that Dash and Carol were going to get back together, or even that they were meant for each other.

Still...

...we got four issues to go, so as far as I'm concerned, nothing is set in stone.

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or even that they were meant for each other.



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But... but...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:24 pm 
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Have hope !

Until I haven't turned the last page of Scalped, I won't give up on this plotline, as I said, I don't think Aaron intended us to get that they were meant for each other, but it seems like an abrupt ending to that story that it all comes to a closure with Dash banging the fat injun chick of the reservoir.

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Have hope !

Until I haven't turned the last page of Scalped, I won't give up on this plotline, as I said, I don't think Aaron intended us to get that they were meant for each other, but it seems like an abrupt ending to that story that it all comes to a closure with Dash banging the fat injun chick of the reservoir.


If there is no resolution (and by that I mean them being together) and Aaron does go to C3 this year... expect to read on CBR, Newsarama, et al that Jason Aaron was beaten by a fanboy wielding apair of nunchucks

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God dammit............

God dammit Dino......... !

GOD DAMMIT !!!

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God dammit............

God dammit Dino......... !

GOD DAMMIT !!!


I know Dude, I know.

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God dammit............

God dammit Dino......... !

GOD DAMMIT !!!


I know Dude, I know.


You just might be getting that ending you were dreaming about a while ago.

Red Crow better not do what I think he's going to do, Aaron will destroy my hear otherwise.

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You just might be getting that ending you were dreaming about a while ago.


Wait which ending? The one where Dino kills Dash or the one where Dino replaces Red Crow?

Or the one where Dash and Carol get together and leave the Rez to be happy.

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DIS IS NOT WAT COMIC IS ABOUT !!!

And I was thinking of the one where Dino kills Dash.

But Dino taking over the Rez ? Holy shit........I don't know about that, it would seem like an inapropiate way to end the story.

I think Aaron highligted very well in issue 50 that, despite the murders, the alcohol abuse, the drug trafficking, the poor economic conditions, the injustice, the social neglecting, the absolute despair, these people are still alive, they are still proud of who they are.

And as long as they have that, then there is hope for them.

If Dino takes over, then Aaron is pretty much saying that there's no hope for the native-americans in the US, which I wouldn't like as an ending to such a great story.

For fuck's sake, just look at this:

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If Dino takes over, then Aaron is pretty much saying that there's no hope for the native-americans in the US, which I wouldn't like as an ending to such a great story.


I don't think it's him saying there's no hope, I think it's him just saying that until the cycle is broken, there will be no escape. Dino can take over and business as usual returns with there still being a light at the end of the tunnel. Scalped is in no way, in my opinion, a complete story. I have a huge feeling that the ending will leave many threads open because (despite their squabbles) Aaron will admit Moore got it right when he said "Nothing ever Ends."

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DIS IS NOT WAT COMIC IS ABOUT !!!


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BUT Y?!?!?!

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I don't think it's him saying there's no hope, I think it's him just saying that until the cycle is broken, there will be no escape. Dino can take over and business as usual returns with there still being a light at the end of the tunnel. Scalped is in no way, in my opinion, a complete story. I have a huge feeling that the ending will leave many threads open because (despite their squabbles) Aaron will admit Moore got it right when he said "Nothing ever Ends."


This is true, obviously these people are trapped in a horrible vicious cycle.

But unless something else happens in that ending, something hopeful or inspiring, then it would be too bleak for the series, specially considering how uplifting issue #50 it was, mutual scalping aside.

If it's just Dino sitting on a throne, with the bodies of Dash and Red Crow at his feet, as well as an unwilling Carol for "his queen", then that would be just........wrong.........apart from being a fucking horrible downer.

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If it's just Dino sitting on a throne, with the bodies of Dash and Red Crow at his feet, as well as an unwilling Carol for "his queen", then that would be just........wrong.........apart from being a fucking horrible downer.


I doubt Carol would be his queen, remember that Granny has been grooming her, perhaps she'll save the soul of the rez like Granny saved her. I agree that if Dino just kills Dash and Red Crow and sits on the throne it'll be a downer ending, but Dino can become "king" without it being a complete downer, as long as there are hints that the days of his rule could be cut short

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
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If it's just Dino sitting on a throne, with the bodies of Dash and Red Crow at his feet, as well as an unwilling Carol for "his queen", then that would be just........wrong.........apart from being a fucking horrible downer.


I doubt Carol would be his queen, remember that Granny has been grooming her, perhaps she'll save the soul of the rez like Granny saved her. I agree that if Dino just kills Dash and Red Crow and sits on the throne it'll be a downer ending, but Dino can become "king" without it being a complete downer, as long as there are hints that the days of his rule could be cut short


You just made me think.

Granny might die at the end of Scalped................*gasp* :o !

Though I can't see Carol taking her role, she has always been her own woman, with or without any man.

And all this talk about the corpse of Red Crow has made me want to have him break out of prison and finish his obligations to the Rez.

Fucking Red Crow, he is TOO DAMN awesome for me to handle !

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Granny might die at the end of Scalped................*gasp* :o !


Very possible, I'm sure most of the leads will die.

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Though I can't see Carol taking her role, she has always been her own woman, with or without any man.


I don't envision her being EXACTLY like Granny, I'm just saying that seeing as how she has been to hell and back she could be the guiding light the rez needs.

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And all this talk about the corpse of Red Crow has made me want to have him break out of prison and finish his obligations to the Rez.

Fucking Red Crow, he is TOO DAMN awesome for me to handle !


No argument there.

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What about Catcher ?

I gotta say, I never expected him to still be alive, he even changed his spirit animal !

I'm guessing Dash will gun him down, can't really see him living much from this point on.

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I'm guessing Dash will gun him down, can't really see him living much from this point on.


D-A-S-H? That is the weirdest way to spell Red Crow. Calling it now, Red Crow gets out and kills Catcher for killing Gina.

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I'm guessing Dash will gun him down, can't really see him living much from this point on.


D-A-S-H? That is the weirdest way to spell Red Crow. Calling it now, Red Crow gets out and kills Catcher for killing Gina.


For once in his fucking life Red Crow will kill THE RIGHT person :lol: !

But didn't Dash went out to kill Catcher ? That's the impression I got.

And I'm not betting on Red Crow getting out, I'd love for it to happen, but it's just too far-fetched.

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But didn't Dash went out to kill Catcher ? That's the impression I got.


I think so, just because he's trying to kill him doesn't mean he'll get there first though.

On a semirelated note, I'm planning on rereading the entire series soon, to get ready for the big finale.

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On a semirelated note, I'm planning on rereading the entire series soon, to get ready for the big finale.


Nice !

Also, will Nitz be relevant anymore ? Will he show up in some manner ?

Seems like pissing from the balcony was pretty much the big period to his arc :lol:

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