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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:27 am 
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Just finished the game as NiteOwl. The game itself was actually pretty boring, so I played mostly for the story and the references (like a thug commenting that Rorschach trew his friend down an elevator shaft). But you could see the conclusion coming pretty quick. But then again, that's pretty easy if you've read the GN.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:41 am 
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I thought the game was alright, although, I understand ppl being pissed about $20 for this, but Braid did it too. Still, the game is too short. At first, I thought Nite Owl was fun to play as, but I found I was more effective with Rorschach, after I got the Untouchable achievement with him. The special modes are cool, although, Nite Owl's charges too fast and makes it really easy.

I don't want to think this game was rushed, the fighting is fun, but the whole button combo display kinda makes it too scripted. As for sound, Tyler Bates never really got me pumped up during fights. I kept expecting something like "Prison Fight" to play and never got it. As for Wilson and Earle Haley, they deliver well, but sometimes, they get into these conversations about enemies that seem ripped out of a after school special. Still, it doesn't last long. Another thing bothered me, as Nite Owl, Rorschach will sometimes randomly say "Never Comprimise." Uhh..ok...these guys are going to try to fuck us up, why wouldn't I? I felt too much like fan service. Again, nothing major, just nit picking.

This really should have had online co-op. Now, I don't believe every game without multiplayer online is shit. But it really would have helped this game, seeing how short it is. As for minigames, only Rorschach has one, lockpicking. Luckily, you never have to use is for intregal parts of the game. It gets frustrating, however.

My suggestions for the next game:
- Different characters (or an option or unlockable)
- Longer (9 to 12 chapters)
- Online Co-op (hope Deadline gets that through their head now)
- Lose the hand holding combo maker.
- Maybe a Survival Mode (the cellphone version had it)

Bottom line: I REALLY wanted to love this game. And I still play it. But Deadline missed the mark. I dunno if they won't make a sequel because this one didn't go well, but I hope they do. I would like to see this continue, so here's to hoping they'll understand the critisisms and take their time. If they next one is better, and the fans demand it, they'll want more. But, they'll have to either really change things, if they want to justify the $20, or take it down to 10 or 15.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:42 am 
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So I'm confused. I'd like to have this game, but I couldn't find it online. Is it gone now? Plus I'd like to play on PC. Is that possible, or do I have to have an Xbox or PS3?

Sorry about that, not sure how to go about it.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:48 am 
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it was tying it into the rape-revenge stories and making light of a verys erious sub-genre that kind of offended me.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:26 pm 
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Fabulous! Thanks so much. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:44 am 
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I can't decide whether I want to get this or not. The demo was fun, and I want to see the other levels and see the storyline but it's getting some pretty bad reviews. I don't wanna waste my money.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:25 am 
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I can't decide whether I want to get this or not. The demo was fun, and I want to see the other levels and see the storyline but it's getting some pretty bad reviews. I don't wanna waste my money.

Depends on the kind of game you like. If you liked the demo and want to play that same exact game for 3 hours, buy the game.

I like games with a lot more varied play - open world, mini games, shooting, stealth, racing, etc.

This game is straight-forward hand-to-hand brawling - that's it.

The story line is decent as well.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:26 am 
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It seems like the rest of the game is like the demo. If you enjoyed the demo, you've got a better understanding of whether you personally will enjoy the full game than the reviews.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:14 pm 
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Yeah, the demo was fun, but if the game is the demo over and over again, that doesn't sound like fun to me. :)


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:57 pm 
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Argh, sorry to dig this topic up, but while I'm waiting for customer support to contact me I thought I'd as for a little troubleshooting here.

I purchased the game today and it seemed to have downloaded ok, but when I go to launch it I can only get as far as the screen where you pick your monitor settings and high/low screen quality, etc. The stuff in the box is too wide and doesn't display all the buttons excect for the upper edge of some kind of button at the bottom of the screen. I click that and it closes me out. There's no proceed button or anything I can find.

How do you get in this game? And I've tried adjusting my display and that doesn't seem to work either. Help! :oops:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:14 pm 
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I know it's a little bit late (sorry for necroposting!), but I thought I'd chime in here with my thoughts on Watchmen: The End is Nigh. I downloaded the game for the Xbox 360, and have played it through several times (yes, I'm an achievement whore). Would I have played it as many times as I did if not for the achievements? Probably not, but I don't think the game deserves half of the bad press it has seemed to receive.

I came to the game with no expectations - I hadn't paid much attention to the previews/reviews until after I'd played it, and maybe a fresh perspective helped my opinion. Hopefully my thoughts might help some of you guys out in your decision, or maybe think about the game a little differently. So, I'll break my thoughts on it down.

Story: The story definitely impressed me. Not only does it show a little bit more of the Watchmen world (and how it differs from our own), it really felt like it could have been the plot of an actual Nite Owl and Rorschach story, if it had been fleshed out a little more. While it would have been nice to see more of the other characters, this felt like it very much fit into the world of the Watchmen film without much trouble, and there didn't seem to be anything that contradicted the comics, either.

Graphics: The graphics are great. Colour wise, it struck me as very consistent with the film, and I was particularly impressed by the environments - the shadows, lighting and reflections were very well done. For saying it's a downloadable game, I was very impressed. The character models (while a bit repetitive when it comes to the bad guys) were also well done - Rorschach's mask was good, and while the punches and weapon blows didn't always seem to visually connect with their targets, the brutality of them came through loud and clear. Rorschach fights with a very dirty, brutal, and almost feral style, while Nite-Owl (II) has more strategic, strong and fluid attacks. Well done. The cut scenes were in a motion-comic style, and the artists did a good job of emulating Dave Gibbons' style, but I felt the art was a little sparse, could have used a bit more detail. One thing that bothered me was that in Silk Spectre II's very brief appearance, she was missing the characteristic mole.

Sound: The music fit. That's all I can really say about that. Jackie Earle Haley and Patrick Wilson did a great job voicing their characters, and the quips that the enemies made were great (and had a lot of variety - even after several playthroughs, I'd hear the occasional line I hadn't heard before). I wish I could say the same for the voice actors behind Dr. Manhattan, Silk Spectre II and the Comedian, as they felt really phoned-in, but it was largely excusable (except for the news anchorwoman talking about Ozzy-Man-Die-Us). The combat sounds were good, in my opinion, and conveyed the "oomph" of the attacks. The crack of a bat hitting a thug in the head comes to mind as an especially good example!

Controls: While occasionally a little - let's say finicky, on the whole they were adequate. The combos were easy to pull off once I got the hang of the timing, but it felt like you should have been able to jump. Rorschach's dodge move always gave me a little bit of trouble (especially when trying to time a counter-attack), but it wasn't terrible, and again, just took some getting used to. I'm not sure how it would work on a PC, but the controls felt adequate on an Xbox 360 controller (if not terribly intuitive).

Gameplay: I've played (and beaten the game) both as Rorschach and Nite Owl II in both single player and co-op. Basically, the game consists of moving from area to area, beating the crap out of whoever gets in your way - from prison inmates, Top-Knots to mercenaries. Yes, it is repetitive - it's a straight forward beat 'em up, almost old school. I found it fun for what it is - it's not a very innovative or spectacularly varied game, but that's okay. It's value priced, and depending on how much you like collecting all of the combos and/or power-ups (some of which can be very tricky to find), you'll get a good few hours of play out of this, more, like I said, if you aim for all of the achievements/trophies. There's not much to this game other than running around and beating up bad guys, with a few platformy/puzzle elements to break up the monotony a bit, but I didn't find it got incredibly boring. The co-op mode, at least for me, was where the game really shone - it was a lot of fun to play the game alongside a competent partner, and really added to the experience. I understand that the no online co-op aspect is a big downside to people, and if I didn't have someone to play with, I could understand that, but I found single-player mode to be fun for what it was, as well. The final boss is challenging, but not frustratingly difficult.

Replay Value: Well, if you're like me, you'll want to get the 200/200 gamerscore, so there's some replay right there. Other than collecting all of the power-ups and combos, there isn't much replay value to the game - for the most part, with the exception of a few areas, there's nothing that Nite-Owl II sees that Rorschach doesn't, and vice versa, but it is fun to play through the game on both characters.

Final Thoughts: It's a $20.00 game. I know a Watchmen game in the first place is a bit blasphemous, but I was pleasantly surprised to find that they did a good job with it. It doesn't tarnish the comic or movie, or represent it badly, but adds on to the universe in a nice way. It's a simple beat-em'-up, like the old school arcade games, presented in 3D and current-gen graphics, and so long as you aren't looking for more than that, it does a good job with it. I urge you not to pooh-pooh it simply because it's a movie-based game, or after the demo, as the demo is exceedingly good at representing the game poorly - the first level is easily the blandest and least fun of the 6, and I found things didn't get really fun until I collected more of the combos.

I have run into a few bugs and glitches, but none, in my experience, that were game breaking (although one did make getting the speed run achievement impossible on two run-throughs), and the way achievements are handed out in single-player mode is confusing and frustrating - some achievements (for example, the ones given for beating the game as one of the two characters) simply aren't awarded for beating the game in co-op mode.

Over all? I'd give the game a 7 out of 10. Not the best game ever by far, but a fun little beat 'em up, and definitely a very fun co-op beat 'em up. I look forward to the next installments!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:15 am 
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As anyone bought this game through Direct2Drive?

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