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 Post subject: Nite Owl II Returns
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:43 am 
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New look at Nite Owl II for Watchmen prequel: http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=51859


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 Post subject: Re: Nite Owl II Returns
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:12 am 
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Is this really going to happen?

I mean seriously.

I just can't believe this.

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 Post subject: Re: Nite Owl II Returns
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:10 pm 
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it looks good, but too heroic imo.


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 Post subject: Re: Nite Owl II Returns
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:17 pm 
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it looks good, but too heroic imo.


Remember, this is before his meltdown/retirement this is when he actually was a hero trying to emulate Hollis

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 Post subject: Re: Nite Owl II Returns
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:35 pm 
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http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/12/25/ ... -jg-jones/

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 Post subject: Re: Nite Owl II Returns
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:45 pm 
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Well... at least the artwork seems pretty.

In terms of story, the only thing this confirms is that the comics will be set in the GN universe instead of the movie timeline. That seems like something of a wasted opportunity, since making the new comic books a spin-off of the movie adaptation might have gone a long way toward placating the fanbase.

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 Post subject: Re: Nite Owl II Returns
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:19 pm 
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It was cool when it was artists doing their takes on the characters for shits and gigs.

Still gonna take a while before it hits me that this is for real.

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 Post subject: Re: Nite Owl II Returns
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http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/12/25/watchmen-2-art-comedian-by-jg-jones/

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let's be honest... that's a badass drawing

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 Post subject: Re: Nite Owl II Returns
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Well... at least the artwork seems pretty.

In terms of story, the only thing this confirms is that the comics will be set in the GN universe instead of the movie timeline. That seems like something of a wasted opportunity, since making the new comic books a spin-off of the movie adaptation might have gone a long way toward placating the fanbase.


I dunno, for a start besides a couple of age differences and the name of the group, and events of the actual GN/movie, there aren't many, if any differences in the time-line, and I think I'd be kind of pissed if they did the movie time-line, also they would probably have to pay for likeness rights to the cast or something anyway.

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 Post subject: Cover Story
PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:58 am 
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As opposed to just not having to pay for creator rights if they simply stick with the comic? But let's not get into that whole argument again so as to avoid the general unpleasantness it typically brings in its wake, eh? ;)


Exquisite artwork for sure.

And covers? If so, then presumably a deliberate decision not to recreate the inventiveness of the 'human free' extreme close-ups that form the very opening panel of each issue, then?

Which leads me to wonder just how, well, 'Watchmenny' these spin-offs are likely to be?

Undoubtedly, there'll be artists who replicate and augment Gibbons's character designs and writers who capitalise upon the seeds of story ideas sown by Moore over a quarter of a century ago, but what about all of those other integral facets that create the overall WATCHMEN experience, i.e. recurring symbolism, and thematic and visual symmetry; historical, classical, literary and pop culture quotes and references; use of metafictional devices à la TOTBF; supplementary prose and facsimile documents; a nine-panel grid structure and absence of 'sound effects' and motion lines...?

In fact, all the things originally designed to showcase the unique qualities of the comics medium and to highlight its particular strengths, to create something that demands repeat readings to locate and absorb all of the content carefully placed within.

Something deliberately constructed to be "not some other comic book" (Gibbons)... a comic about comics.


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 Post subject: Re: Cover Story
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Which leads me to wonder just how, well, 'Watchmenny' these spin-offs are likely to be?


I think all involved realize they are not Moore or Gibbons, and as such won't try and ape them to that extent. Think about characters like Daredevil, people reflect Miller in Daredevil all the time, but most leave out all the Eisner touches and little things that made his run so great. Not saying Miller's Daredevil is on par with Watchmen, but 'm saying that if these writers and artists just try and do everything exactly the same... there will be even less of a point

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 Post subject: Re: Nite Owl II Returns
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Let's not mince words here, these spin-offs are going to be unadulterated shit!

They are a cash grab and nothing else. I can see top-notch creators leaping at the chance to work with these characters and I don't blame them. But DC should never even started such a cheap gimmick to line their pockets.

As I've stated before, I don't care if this shit goes on to win every comic award in the book (they won't, I'm certain), I will never read one word of this crap. And they will not receive one cent of my money.

WATCHMEN is a self-contained work. It gives you plenty of insight into these characters. We don't need "further adventures" which are being done for one reason and one reason ONLY: MONEY. Period.

The sooner this garbage is consigned to the bargain bins and forgotten, the better.


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 Post subject: Re: Nite Owl II Returns
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And Im not too happy about it.
I thought I was really excited about this, until I saw that pic.
Idk why, but suddenly my hopes are in the gutter.
Shit.

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 Post subject: Cover Up
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On the first day of Christmas, my true love gave to me...

A Cease and Desist from DC

...in which one of their legal beagles bemoans distribution of Company "assets" (still think this is anything other than a cash grab?) comprising of aforementioned Company's (and here's the zinger)... "intellectual property". Really?!




Psssssst, Amy... you really oughta Google Image search WATCHMEN PREQUEL. Don't mention it.


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 Post subject: Re: Nite Owl II Returns
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Alright idk who Amy is, but I googled it and found that pic of the comedian which is way cool. Just saying. Thats badass.

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 Post subject: Re: Cover Up
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Writer Of Wrongs wrote:
On the first day of Christmas, my true love gave to me...

A Cease and Desist from DC

...in which one of their legal beagles bemoans distribution of Company "assets" (still think this is anything other than a cash grab?) comprising of aforementioned Company's (and here's the zinger)... "intellectual property". Really?!




Psssssst, Amy... you really oughta Google Image search WATCHMEN PREQUEL. Don't mention it.

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 Post subject: Re: Nite Owl II Returns
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Well, I see nothing wrong with these illustrations. They are very true to character - no "re-imagining."

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Writer Of Wrongs wrote:
Company's (and here's the zinger)... "intellectual property". Really?!


according to the contract Moore and gibbons signed of their own free will... yes it is

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 Post subject: Blow Cover
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The delicious irony being that IP protection, particulary in the US, has largely been about generating not only incentives for creators to continue creating (i.e. not managing to acrimoniously drive away your bearded cash cow and swear him off ever knowingly working for you again), but also to encourage and promote innovation (i.e. not simply to oversee the regurgitation of the ideas that aforementioned cash cow and his artistic partner laid out twenty-five years ago... no "re-imagining" at all is precisely right).

But - once more - let's not get into that whole argument again so as to avoid the general unpleasantness it typically brings in its wake, eh? ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Blow Cover
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But - once more - let's not get into that whole argument again so as to avoid the general unpleasantness it typically brings in its wake, eh? ;)

...Are you a troll?

Who the hell is Amy?

Am I on LSD?

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