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Author:  NiteOwl [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nite Owl II Returns

Curiosity Inc. wrote:
Apples and oranges, Smutty.

Sandman is very much an open-ended story. It literally spans all of space and all of time, in addition to an endless amount of pocket dimensions and supernatural lands. The scope of the Sandman universe is quite literally infinite. As such, it would be perfectly easy for some other writer to come up with new characters or new locations, and even the established cast is enormous. Yes, there's a canon to be heeded and a timeline that has to stay intact, but the rules are admittedly rather loose, and the timeline has a shit-ton of holes for other writers to come in and fill as they see fit.

By contrast, the scope of Watchmen is very finite. We know exactly where it begins (the introduction of Hooded Justice in the late '30s) and we know exactly where it ends ("I leave it entirely in your hands," at the end of 1985). That's a fifty-year timeline that's been heavily documented through flashbacks, "Under the Hood" excerpts, and other assorted information in the source text. There are a few characters that could use more development (mostly the old villains), and the timeline does have a few holes, but the wiggle room afforded is absolutely tiny by comparison.

Sense. You're making it.

Author:  Smutty [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:26 am ]
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NiteOwl wrote:
Curiosity Inc. wrote:
Apples and oranges, Smutty.

Sandman is very much an open-ended story. It literally spans all of space and all of time, in addition to an endless amount of pocket dimensions and supernatural lands. The scope of the Sandman universe is quite literally infinite. As such, it would be perfectly easy for some other writer to come up with new characters or new locations, and even the established cast is enormous. Yes, there's a canon to be heeded and a timeline that has to stay intact, but the rules are admittedly rather loose, and the timeline has a shit-ton of holes for other writers to come in and fill as they see fit.

By contrast, the scope of Watchmen is very finite. We know exactly where it begins (the introduction of Hooded Justice in the late '30s) and we know exactly where it ends ("I leave it entirely in your hands," at the end of 1985). That's a fifty-year timeline that's been heavily documented through flashbacks, "Under the Hood" excerpts, and other assorted information in the source text. There are a few characters that could use more development (mostly the old villains), and the timeline does have a few holes, but the wiggle room afforded is absolutely tiny by comparison.

Sense. You're making it.


YOU TREACHEROUS FOOL!

Author:  NiteOwl [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nite Owl II Returns

Smutty wrote:
NiteOwl wrote:
Curiosity Inc. wrote:
Apples and oranges, Smutty.

Sandman is very much an open-ended story. It literally spans all of space and all of time, in addition to an endless amount of pocket dimensions and supernatural lands. The scope of the Sandman universe is quite literally infinite. As such, it would be perfectly easy for some other writer to come up with new characters or new locations, and even the established cast is enormous. Yes, there's a canon to be heeded and a timeline that has to stay intact, but the rules are admittedly rather loose, and the timeline has a shit-ton of holes for other writers to come in and fill as they see fit.

By contrast, the scope of Watchmen is very finite. We know exactly where it begins (the introduction of Hooded Justice in the late '30s) and we know exactly where it ends ("I leave it entirely in your hands," at the end of 1985). That's a fifty-year timeline that's been heavily documented through flashbacks, "Under the Hood" excerpts, and other assorted information in the source text. There are a few characters that could use more development (mostly the old villains), and the timeline does have a few holes, but the wiggle room afforded is absolutely tiny by comparison.

Sense. You're making it.


YOU TREACHEROUS FOOL!
lol I'm simply saying his reply is way more thought out than just a fit of DC hate on Moore's behalf.
And he does make sense... lol

Author:  AYBGerrardo [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:11 pm ]
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Chip Zdarsky spills the cold beans on being approached to write a Watchmen 2 title...
http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=13655

Author:  Writer Of Wrongs [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Bum Deal

Now THAT'S what I call an asshole!

Author:  DoomsdayClock [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bum Deal

Writer Of Wrongs wrote:
Now THAT'S what I call an asshole!

"We're all puppets, Laurie. You're just a puppet who can see my brown eye."

Author:  Writer Of Wrongs [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  The light is taking me to ringpieces.

Its atomic structure is a perfect grid, like a checker board.
An intricately structured jewel that humans insist on viewing one edge at a time, when the whole design is visible in every facet.

Author:  AYBGerrardo [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:09 pm ]
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Goats see it.

Author:  Writer Of Wrongs [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:33 pm ]
Post subject:  I could extend your aura...

It stretches more than three thousand miles, so that one end knows day while the other endures night.
Temperature differences breed shrieking winds that herd oceans of fog along a canyon four miles deep.
Does the human heart know chasms so abysmal?

Author:  Curiosity Inc. [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:52 pm ]
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I couldn't even get to the Watchmen pitch, this article was so unfunny and masturbatory.

Author:  WJK [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:43 pm ]
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Curiosity Inc. wrote:
I couldn't even get to the Watchmen pitch, this article was so unfunny and masturbatory.



It seems like a troll article more than anything else, unless he's just covering his Watchmen 2 ideas (that may have been taken up by DC). If that's the case, shit.

Author:  DoomsdayClock [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:18 am ]
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WJK wrote:
Curiosity Inc. wrote:
I couldn't even get to the Watchmen pitch, this article was so unfunny and masturbatory.



It seems like a troll article more than anything else, unless he's just covering his Watchmen 2 ideas (that may have been taken up by DC). If that's the case, shit.

Uhh... It's just a joke. It's funny. You guys can be so dry sometimes!

Author:  Dr. Brooklyn [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:33 pm ]
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Curiosity Inc. wrote:
I couldn't even get to the Watchmen pitch, this article was so unfunny and masturbatory.


I agree, I understand that the writer was going for humor... but attempt does not equal sucess...

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