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 Post subject: Re: Minutemen
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:06 am 
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I've been wondering that myself!

Haven't read this one yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Minutemen
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:47 am 
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I really liked it, and I feel like this is easily the best series thus far (I have really high hopes for Azzarello's Rorschach, though).

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Godziller66 wrote:
Btw, how many people knew who the Comedian was in the Graphic Novel? Metropolis calls him Edward at one point.

Presumably, all of the Minutemen knew: we're certainly shown Sally using Eddie's name quite openly in front of them all just before that unpleasantness in the trophy room. It's reasonable to assume that Cap. Metropolis, Sally herself and agent Laurence Schexnayder would have known from the very start what the true identity of the brash sixteen year old they were recruiting into their ranks was, and the young Blake himself would then no doubt have revelled in making sure the rest of his new crimefighting colleagues knew exactly who he was as he bragged about his prior teenage exploits.

Not everybody knew everyone else, though. Nobody ever knew who Hooded Justice really was, and Sally didn't know - or more to the point care - that The Silhouette was called Ursula Zandt.

In later years, Dr. Manhattan, the Vietnamese hooker he shot, Laurie Juspeczyk, Adrian Veidt and Moloch knew The Comedian's true identity for varying lengths of time prior to his death, with Rorschach and Dan Dreiberg only ever finding out shortly after he went sidewalk diving. Presumably, a lot of the high ranking guests at that banquet in 1973 thrown in Blake's honour were also aware of his alter ego, the likes of VP Ford (and although absent that particular night, Nixon too), G. Gordon Liddy and the other unidentified government hanger-oners courting Blake's attention. In addition, it's entirely probable that the unidentified military man first seen saluting then throwing earth onto Blake's coffin, plus the other walkie-talkie carrying security spooks attending his funeral also knew the truth about the man now in the ground.


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 Post subject: Re: Minutemen
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:22 pm 
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I really liked it, and I feel like this is easily the best series thus far (I have really high hopes for Azzarello's Rorschach, though).


While at a book store today, I was flipping through a magazine (Maxim, or FHM, or one of those magazines), and they had the first three finished pages from the story. Obviously three pages is not enough to really give an impression on it, but I did have two initial thoughts:

1. The artwork isn't quite as good in color as it is in black and white. Purely subjective, but the artwork looked oddly flat (to me) in color. It seemed to lack the texture of the black and white drawings. Rorschach's ink blots looked kind of cartoony, and didn't quite mesh with the realistic illustrations. I don't know if it was the coloring or what, but it's just my first impression.

2. Rorschach didn't sound like Rorschach. I don't know if this story is supposed to be set before he lost his mind, but his journal extracts don't really sound like him.

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 Post subject: Re: Minutemen
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I bought Minutemen #1 and 2 by way of my iPad, and i think digital copies is how I will be buying my copies in future...

I have only read 'em each once, but I really enjoyed how Cooke consciously grappled with the conundrum of writing new works in the Watchmen universe, simultaneously adopting some established graphic modes and pacing while also indulging his natural flair for period evocation. He really is the man for this particular job.

Not too keen on reading others as yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Minutemen
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Not too keen on reading others as yet.

Honestly, Minutemen's been the only legitimately good series so far.

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 Post subject: Re: Minutemen
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:24 am 
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Mister Pain wrote:
Not too keen on reading others as yet.

Honestly, Minutemen's been the only legitimately good series so far.


I wonder if that's because Minutemen is probably the only story that Watchmen fans were legitimately interested in being told?

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 Post subject: Re: Minutemen
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This series is amazing, I particularly loved the way that Cooke blended the Minuteman comic book with the story.

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I don't know about amazing, but it's pretty good and it certainly seems amazing compared to the other BW minis.

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Yeah, it's far from amazing. It's serviceable.

But compared to the rest I guess that does make it amazing.

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Well...the ending to issue 4 was pretty crazy.

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 Post subject: Re: Minutemen
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Well, the "revelation" at the end of Issue 5 is one big steaming pile of contrived shit.

It's official. Other than Wein (for the most part) not a single one of these writers gets WATCHMEN and its characters.

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 Post subject: Re: Minutemen
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Well, the "revelation" at the end of Issue 5 is one big steaming pile of contrived shit.

It's official. Other than Wein (for the most part) not a single one of these writers gets WATCHMEN and its characters.


Um... I wouldn't call it a revelation, that was a cliffhanger.

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See my post in the other thread. It's either Hooded Justice, which would just be terrible... or it's a hackneyed attempted at using a red herring. That kind of crap belongs in stuff like monthly Spider-Man comics, not WATCHMEN.

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Comedian Carl wrote:
See my post in the other thread. It's either Hooded Justice, which would just be terrible... or it's a hackneyed attempted at using a red herring. That kind of crap belongs in stuff like monthly Spider-Man comics, not WATCHMEN.


So what your saying is that there is no place for red herrings in Watchmen?





Next question... have you read Watchmen?

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 Post subject: Re: Minutemen
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No, what I'm saying is that red herrings in WATCHMEN shouldn't be so pendantic and obvious (if its indeed a red herring... it could just be more character mutilation). That's why I called it a "hackneyed attempt" if that turns out to be the case. In fact, it's so lazy that I instantly defaulted to the notion of Hooded Justice actually being the villain.

My question to you: Do you honestly think this is writing worthy of the WATCHMEN name and legacy? Because if you do, then we simply agree to disagree. If you don't, then that's my point.

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 Post subject: Re: Minutemen
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Comedian Carl wrote:
Do you honestly think this is writing worthy of the WATCHMEN name and legacy? Because if you do, then we simply agree to disagree. If you don't, then that's my point.


I think some of these series, with Minutemen far ahead of the pack, are like any follow up after a classic run. think Nocenti after Miller on Daredevil, it's not the same quality we're used to... but difference does not equal inferiority. I stand by Minutemen and t's amongst the best comics I've read this year... and I read a lot of comics.

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I stand by WATCHMEN and it's the best comic I've read this year, and the twenty-five years before that... and I've read a lot of comics in that quarter of a century.

But not BEFORE WATCHMEN.




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 Post subject: Re: Stand Up Comic
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Writer Of Wrongs wrote:
I stand by WATCHMEN and it's the best comic I've read this year, and the twenty-five years before that... and I've read a lot of comics in that quarter of a century.

But not BEFORE WATCHMEN.




Just saying.


Wait are you saying here you haven't read Before Watchmen or you don't think it's good?

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 Post subject: Re: Minutemen
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Minutemen just wrapped this week and that was easily one of the best mini's of the year. I know a lot of you hated even the idea of it, but I think it turned out great and was always near the top of my pull list.

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