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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 3:31 pm 
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Watchmen Origins: Rorschach. A 20th Century Fox Production.

I believe that's really what you meant?


That's the film adaptation based off the musical written by Andrew Lloyd Kovacs (okay yeah I know that was lame..)

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Minutemarch wrote:
True but I did say one of the reasons, that being the one that would likely be effected by a spin off. It was never meant to encompass all audience reaction to Rorschach. I know there are many reasons people are drawn to him.


But as soon as that movie got advertised all the "I seed the moveh sow A'm t3h biggestest The Watchman fan ever!" fan's would go running to theatre's to get more information about the greatest movie character since Batman

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Minutemarch wrote:
Only if Alan Moore wrote the script and he won't ever do that so no.

He won't do it because he knows if you give people that much they'll get a taste for it. They'll want more. They may want one for every main character and if you hand people everything on a plate, show every moment of every characters' past no one has to wonder, investigate, speculate, do what we do here.

One of the reasons Rorschach is popular is because he is also complex and somewhat mysterious.

That touch of enigma is one of the things I like most about Watchmen and I don't want it to go away.


Amen:)
Plus the sensation would have weakened.
He would definitely need a chick, and some cool quoutes and a big gun
Well that would be just.....weird.
Rorschech dans un filme noire?J'en doute.

He isn't really such a cool guy, no compromise......no mates.... he is really only heartbrakingly emotional when in touch with other characters, and only shows it through his voice.
And he's already had a grande finale.

I love him, but I think the movie would have been a dull.

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Since most of Watchmen was about Rorschach anyway, I feel a spin-off about him would be unnecessary.

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I'd love to see a Rorschach tv series. Rorschach's narration, the gritty look of the city, his violence, it would all make for a really cool series.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:16 pm 
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minuto27 wrote:
Since most of Watchmen was about Rorschach anyway, I feel a spin-off about him would be unnecessary.


I don't think it was...

Besides his character chapter, Rorschach was basically used as a plot device to slowly, but surly advance the plot, since he was the only character delusional enough to actually believe the mask killer theory; in his head the killing of masks somehow equated to nuclear annihilation.

Don't get me wrong, Rorschach has his moments, but a series just based of Rorschach would be un-watchmeny. Watchmen from what I got from it, and knowing Alan Moore, was a pretty humanist book. Alan Moore as an Anarchist, has to believe that at the end of the day, people are good. I doubt Rorschach shares this belief. I mean Rorschach's ideologies are just contradictary to the thesis of Watchmen.

Now I know that one can subscribe themselves to New Criticism, and you do have the freedom to interpret the text anyway you want, but it seems any series based on Rorschach would be counter-Alan Moore, from a contextual standpoint.

But that is all beside the point, a spin-off of any kind is a terrible idea. You don't see many people vouching for a sequel to Grapes of Wrath do you? An adaption is fine, but no more. Let great art, remain great art.


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InfinityQuantum wrote:
minuto27 wrote:
Since most of Watchmen was about Rorschach anyway, I feel a spin-off about him would be unnecessary.



Don't get me wrong, Rorschach has his moments, but a series just based of Rorschach would be un-watchmeny. Watchmen from what I got from it, and knowing Alan Moore, was a pretty humanist book. Alan Moore as an Anarchist, has to believe that at the end of the day, people are good. I doubt Rorschach shares this belief. I mean Rorschach's ideologies are just contradictary to the thesis of Watchmen.


I agree with this. A plot of 100% Rorschach would be just too much for a Movie/ TV Series. Even if it were written well, it would lose its watchmen-ness centering itself around Rorschach's POV. Plus, who's gonna write it... Alan Moore? Ha!

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Would you want a Rorschach spin off movie?

God no.

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Godziller66 wrote:
Would you want a Rorschach spin off movie?

God no.


Agreed.

It would be the bleakest film ever, just him brutalising thugs and investigating (which would inevitably involve brutality) in costume, and sitting in his flat staring at the wall or writing in his journal without his face. So no, not really. And that's if they stay true to the character, which they probably wouldn't.

You don't need a film; not saying that Rorschach is a 2D character who is fully explained in the graphic novel, but everything you need to muse at length on him is there, translating all that onto a screen would seem a bit pointless. Like flogging a dead horse really. Plus, it's good to leave things up to the imagination now and then....

Saying that, the "hurm" song from the musical sounds excellent.

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Make movie to cash in on Rorschach? He'd hate it. And I would, too.

Makes me think of what became of Boba Fett. <shudder>


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Makes me think of what became of Boba Fett. <shudder>

.....What happened to Boba Fett?...

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He was changed from an enigmatic badass to a whimpy kid. Coz the fans wanted more of him.

Ok, don't tell me Star Wars isn't Watchmen. I know that. Still, Boba popped up in my mind when I thought about a Rorschach spin off.


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yeah but who isn't a little douche when they're 10-13 years old?

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He was changed from an enigmatic badass to a whimpy kid. Coz the fans wanted more of him.

You mean in Episode II?

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Do I? I honestly can't say. I know I watched all of them, but didn't bother to remember much of the new stuff, neither names nor plot.

Apart from the fact I found that new Boba + Jango extremely annoying.

(And Temuera Morrison is awesome in Once were Warriors, so it's not his fault. But then, I found Once were Warriors an awesome movie, so that makes the difference.)

But... I actually regret that I brought it up, coz there really are no parallels to Watchmen, apart from the fact that the SW prequels were (to me) the destruction of a badass interesting guy, and I fear a prequel with Rorschach's story might have the same effect.

But then, I don't have to watch it.

But I would. OF COURSE.

But there won't be a Rorschach spin off. Phew. :mrgreen:


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Well There's really nothing in the movies to suggest Boba Fett's so great in the first place. If someone were to just watch the original trilogy they'd think he was some almost mute guy that was apparently good at his job but then dies screaming like a girl because of a blind guy swinging a stick.

Pretty much everything Boba Fett comes from the expanded universe.

And if people read into it they'd know that not only does Fett survive but he escapes, gets amnesia, falls back in, and escapes again.

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If someone were to just watch the original trilogy they'd think he was some almost mute guy that was apparently good at his job but then dies screaming like a girl because of a blind guy swinging a stick.
Ah, I am old. When I watched Jedi there was no girly scream.

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Well There's really nothing in the movies to suggest Boba Fett's so great in the first place.

That's right, it's (almost) all in the fans' heads. That's the big difference to Watchmen, where we can find what we need in the novel, and some of it even makes it into the movie.


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Boba Fett screaming like a girl is 47 seconds in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCDNY8lzsQU

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*AHEM*

Bottom line: There won't be a Rorschach movie and we're all the better off for it.

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Curiosity Inc. wrote:
*AHEM*

Bottom line: There won't be a Rorschach movie and we're all the better off for it.

Agreed.

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