I challenge one guy and end up arguing another, I fucking love you Brooklyn
Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
But the people who work on the system level (Ozy, Doc, The World leaders) were also shown to be delusional, even more so. Rorschach knew he was only changing the world at the basest of levels, but that was worth it to him. Moore also criticizes the people who give up trying to make a difference in the form of Dan and Laurie. I think some themes of Watchmen are along these lines...
The first part doesn't really contradict what I said, as for Rorschach, he wasn't changing anything, one of the points made about his character was precisely that he was completely unable to exert (sp) any real leverage on the world because he was way far gone into Bullshit Mountain.
As for Dan and Laurie, I always interpreted it the other way, superheroing ruined them, Dan was an insecure, co-dependant, awkward mess who could never realize himself unless he was wearing his costume and hunting down whatever criminal could feed his ego at the time, as for Laurie, she was completely unable to adapt to regular, normal life, she couldn't date or make small talk about anything, she was a neurotic with mommy issues.
Writer Of Wrongs wrote:
But it's the inherent love for the traditional superhero on the part of both the creators and their audience which ensures that such deconstruction is so memorably effective.
Hmmmmm, what do you put forward as evidence of this "inherent love" ? If it can be found within the comic, preferably.
Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
And in that regard, WATCHMEN cannot be considered to be opposed to or against, anti, the concept of the superhero. Seeking to expose contradictions in a field of work for fresh artistic effect is not the same as attempting to discredit or deliberately damage the original work thereafter. This is what so disappointed Moore after WATCHMEN: that superhero comics became populated by an endless glut of so-called dark and damaged characters bearing none of the inventiveness, style and wit borne out of a love for the genre that he himself had crafted.
I see what you mean now, I guess it is true that indeed, The Mighty Beard, was just pointing out the bullshitty parts in order for both fans and artists to reflect on the genre as a whole, very nice Mister Wrongs !