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I think Veidt was doing it good, doing it rightly, getitng it morning, noon, and nightly... from emn and women.

Veidt is a hedonist, lets face it. Everything about him screams he is all about the pleasures in life, why wouldn't he be tapping some guys?

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This thread is so anal.

Here's how I feel about locking the thread.

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te he. It's funny because we're discussing sodomy

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Uh-huh. It was a pun.

There are so many sexual and homosexual elements in Watchmen that you could write a thesus on it (and probably many have)

It's what made Watchmen so cool at the time. Gay characters, sex and violence, the roleplaying and dressing up of all our heroes. Drug references. Grafitti. Marketing. Politics. Real world stuff. In an unreal story.
So unlike the "1950/60s US sit-com" world of comics - particularly DC - prevalent until the 80s.

The sexuality of Ozymandias and Rorschach were always a bit mysterious - but do we all HAVE to know every inch of someone's sexuality? Does everybody HAVE to be placed in a box with parameters defined by others?

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Moore: If they do a film..you couldn’t have the pirate stuff..couldn’t have the background details...

Oh, no, of course not. And I think most people's sexuality doesn't fit neatly in a little box. But in the case of Watchmen, I do think such speculation is appropriate in the context of literary analysis/criticism.

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Furthermore we must consider the homosexualism very uncommon at comics, specially this gray scale of homosexuality. WATCHMEN created also a new sexual layer to comics.

Concerning the sexuality of the Crimebusters, I don't discart the possibility that Adrian has been sexualy abused by Blake after their first fight (viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1449) despite the lack of evidence.

Veidt took it too personal.

Blake was a pervert, but I don't think he was THAT perverted where he would rape a dude.

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I agree. Judging from that "this is what gets you hot" remark to Hooded Justice, I've always seen Blake as a bit of a homophobe. Maybe not afraid or even threatened by homosexuals per se...but I think he looks down on them. I feel like it would be out of character for him to do anything that might be interpreted as homosexual.

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Yeah, Blake is like the epitome of manliness, look at EVERYTHING about him, it screams uber chauvanist, he kills HJ (implied) and he chastises him for his lifestyle, so why on earth would he rape Veidt? you're theory makes absolutely no sense what so ever, Gourmet

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I mentioned that I didn't discart the possibility that Adrian has been sexualy abused by Blake after their first fight despite the lack of evidence.

Nonsense? Not sure of it... have you ever seen AMERICAN BEAUTY? Pehaps you will remember the homophobic colonel from American Beauty...

I heard you. It's an interesting idea. I just happen to disagree due to... lack of evidence.

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I agree, I don't think there's any direct textual evidence to support Blake and Veidt having anything beyond a philosophical rivalry. On the other hand, Blake's implied homophobia can definitely be interpreted as a violent psychological reaction to awareness of his own latent homosexual tendencies, which happens quite a bit with "manly" men. Is Blake gay, or even living on the "down low?" Probably not, but he certainly seems to be compensating for some insecurity with his own masculinity.

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Well, he's so homophobic, and then he see HJ regarded as a hero, it would be a "But, guys, he's GAY!" moment like Blake descending into total disbelief that HJ is honored even though he's gay.

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The Comedian has sexual problems. No one can deny it.

I'd say he suffers from erectile dysfunction, and it's a partial impotence (he made two women pregnant) due to psychological disorder factors or mental conditions. (The pictures below are a great evidence of this. His finger looks like a flacid penis pointing down. It happened when Blake were young, during the Minuteman period. The same happens after, during the Crimebuster period, his charoot pointing down once more.)

We don't know if he is violent with women because this excites him and begins the process of erection or because he is a misogynist. Both probably. At Ch. II, 18 he hits only the girl, from a group of three; two of them were guys. Furthermore, at Ch. II, 23, 5 he says "I did bad things to women".

How did Blake noticed Hooded Justice was gay? During the fight, right? He says "This is what you like hun? This is what gets you hot..." (Ch. II, 7). Did Hooded had a hard on? If not, how did Blake noticed Hooded was gay during the fight? Maybe it was just the fight.

At Ch. IV, 14, 1 (june, 1960) he is pointing his finger to Chaptain Metropolis. The charoot is on fire. As we know, Metropolis is another gay Minuteman.

Finaly we have the fight between Blake and Adrian. I can only find a reference at Ch. XI, appendix.

Hurm. Possibly bisexual. Must investigate further...

Are you being serious, Gourmet? It's difficult to tell.

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Um, he isn't impotent if he got two women pregnant, it's the opposite. Impotent means he isn't potent, and he probably couldn't get a chick preganant, let alone TWO, being unable to get it up or produce anything.


Look at his outfit , especially the gimp mask, that;s probably a hint that he is into BDSM or at least rough sex, and would it shock you that it excites him? being rough with women does not a gay man make.


I believe it wasn't that hooded in the Minutemen, they knew that HJ and Sally were a farce, and why would he have afake girlfriend? put two and two together...



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I think that the title "Watchmen" is a subtle poke at the fact that super hero comics are always about these big string men- literally, we "watch men", so to speak. I think this is why sexuality of the male characters (more so than the female characters, who also sit back and "watch men" for the most part) is played up so prominently throughout the series.

Remember, Moore intended satire of the medium while using the very medium to reach new heights in the sequential art format.

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Maybe all of you are just going faggot

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