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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:13 pm 
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Yep. It certainly didn't have the same impact in the movie, it was more like "Oh, he just killed the cat too. Ah well." At least that's what my non-fan friends said.

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I cropped this from Deviantart. S'not mine though. :D

Snot mine...hmmmmm

*ideas formulate in head*

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:31 pm 
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What are you talking about? :lol: There's no need to link me to DA, I've been a member for like four years. And I put an apostrophe between the S and the n, and you know it! What exploded?! I'm so confused!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:23 am 
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What are you talking about? :lol: There's no need to link me to DA, I've been a member for like four years. And I put an apostrophe between the S and the n, and you know it! What exploded?! I'm so confused!

Well first of all, snot land mine. A whole new level of chemical warfare.

Second, the link wasn't for you specifically. It's for other people who might browse this thread.

Also, snot land mine.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:01 pm 
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You amuse me godziller.

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No! WCM must not turn into 4chan! Quick, think of something intelligent to say. Don't say snot land mine either, even though everyone knows it's a good idea.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:04 pm 
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I agree with Rionymesh that animal characters have no reason to die because, when villains are defeated, they are done so to symbolically represent the defeat of evil. It's something that dates back to Ancient Greek tragedies if you think about it.

As for the death of Bubastis, has noone noticed that she went through an Intrinsic Field Subtractor (it's even written on the control panel), something Dr. Manhattan/Jon was trapped in back in 1959? Am I the only one who needs to make up an alternate ending or sequel in order to seek comfort?

Also, a goddess-like Bubastis would fit the whole Ancient Egyptian divine theme quite well. Not that I'd imagine her on Dr. Manhattan side to fight Ozy, but still, I could think of her as making a come back, this time, blue Bubastis...

(No, I've only seen the movie, and just wanted to write this down for a long time.)


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Now that is a good and comforting theory. Good work. So it's only a matter of time before omnipotent Bubastis makes an appearance! Interesting....

It's just the fact that most of the time in films or stories not aimed at children, animal deaths aren't really thought of as important. Which is awful because animals are just as important as humans. But Bubastis' death was significant because of what it represented and that's why people get upset. Obvious statement is obvious.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:35 pm 
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Now that is a good and comforting theory. Good work. So it's only a matter of time before omnipotent Bubastis makes an appearance! Interesting....

Well no. This has been covered before and I wasn't going to say anything but now there are two of you. It's implied that Jon and only Jon could have put himself back together. It was kind of a freak occurence and it couldn't be recreated. Otherwise everyone would be making themselves blue supermen.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:16 am 
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A Bubastis plushie would be so awesome. I love it and felt bad for it when it died. Why do you think it is that we get attached to animals in films/books, for example, in 300 my step brother said "Poor Horse" when it got injured in one of the battles, and yet we feel good when the Persians get their asses handed to them?

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A Bubastis plushie would be so awesome. I love it and felt bad for it when it died. Why do you think it is that we get attached to animals in films/books, for example, in 300 my step brother said "Poor Horse" when it got injured in one of the battles, and yet we feel good when the Persians get their asses handed to them?

Because animals are innocent while humans can be evil bastards.

And I would definitely buy a Bubastis plushie. (A squid plushie would be cool too.)

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The lynxes are cats, actually medium size cats.

Her artificial color has no significance (imho), only evidencing that she is a genetically altered animal. She is also very inteligent, so this means that Adrian's scientists were able to develop a brain by 1975 (IV, 21). Curiously, in 1975 Ozymandias has retired.

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If you look at Ch. XI, 18, you'll notice that Ozymandias used to have a cat as a pet. This happens after 1963 and before 1966. The cat might as well have lived for 10 to 12 years, preceding Bubastis.

Obviously both cats show that Adrian suffer a strong influence and inspiration from the pharaohs (XI, 10, 7).


I always thought that kitten was a young Bubastis.


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Because animals are innocent while humans can be evil bastards.


And that's why you feel bad whenever you see a T-Bone steak on the menu :P ?

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Because animals are innocent while humans can be evil bastards.


And that's why you feel bad whenever you see a T-Bone steak on the menu :P ?

Uh-huh

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Godziller66 wrote:
Because animals are innocent while humans can be evil bastards.


Ooooooooooooooooh I beg to differ. Animals are capable of murder, just as is any human being. So there really is no innocence on this planet. Plus my dog is a little turd and he is lucky to get away with some of the shit he does. Not to mention you can tell when he's full on guilty of it as well.


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Because animals are innocent while humans can be evil bastards.


Ooooooooooooooooh I beg to differ. Animals are capable of murder, just as is any human being. So there really is no innocence on this planet. Plus my dog is a little turd and he is lucky to get away with some of the shit he does. Not to mention you can tell when he's full on guilty of it as well.

Animals generally just kill to survive. There's no such thing as a Cat The Ripper as far as I'm aware of.

By the way, please notify me if that happens.

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Animals generally just kill to survive. There's no such thing as a Cat The Ripper as far as I'm aware of.

By the way, please notify me if that happens.


Dude, stop it, animals are not innocent, they simply aren't "evil", if that term can even be applied to any non-human.

Ever saw the video about a bear attacking a woman at a comercial shoot ? (I think it was a comercial shoot), there was no survival involved there :lol: !

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same with the monkey whore tore that woman's face off.


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Well, I don't think that animals ever really have malicious intent, though. Eh Whatever. I definitely see your point but they can't really be compared to humans in terms of mental culpability.

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Godziller66 wrote:
Well, I don't think that animals ever really have malicious intent, though. Eh Whatever. I definitely see your point but they can't really be compared to humans in terms of mental culpability.


I don't want to turn this into a nasty discussion, but no one can really know anything about animals, specially "mental culpability", you are anthropomorphisizing (sp) the animal by placing attributes that are proper to humans.

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but no one can really know anything about animals

Yes they can?

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