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John Byrne wrote:
I was watching a few minutes of the WATCHMEN movie on cable last night, and I found myself musing on the notion of a “prequel” or sequel to the original comicbook series.

In WATCHMEN, Moore inverted — I might say perverted — pretty much everything the superhero genre is all about. He was not the first to do so, but WATCHMEN was the first time we got it all in such a concentrated dose. Largely, this seems to have happened because Moore is very much a one trick pony. The one trick works for him and his fans, so no problem there, I guess. But this got me to thinking about who would be a suitable candidate to produce another round of WATCHMEN.

The thought began to take shape in my head that any revisiting of those characters should be a continuation of the “tradition” of WATCHMEN. That is, as Moore trashed everything superheroes were all about, the next go-round should do the same with WATCHMEN itself. So the ideal candidate for doing the project should be someone who is equally a one trick pony, but from the opposite end of the spectrum. Immediately, one name sprang to the forefront: Rob Liefeld.

No, I’m not kidding. Liefeld would be to WATCHMEN what Moore was to superheroes in general. And it would be such fun to watch a whole flock of retailer’s heads exploding, as they tried to serve two entirely different faces of mammon!

- John Byrne

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it was tying it into the rape-revenge stories and making light of a verys erious sub-genre that kind of offended me.


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As much as I think that what he said is completely moronic, I have to admit that he drew some of my favourite stories (namely phoenix saga).

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Yeah, same. It's just a pity that, while a lot of people resent what happened to the superhero genre in Watchmen's aftermath, he resents Watchmen itself. And Moore apparently. But "one trick pony"?? Has he ever read anything by him?

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I'd say that if Moore was a one-trick-pony, the one trick would be violence against women.
I can't say I've ever read a Moore story without violence against women playing a big part.

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I'd say that if Moore was a one-trick-pony, the one trick would be violence against women.
I can't say I've ever read a Moore story without violence against women playing a big part.


Yeah, but that is a motiff, not a trick or a pony.

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Wow. What totally ignorant things to say about one of the landmark graphic novels in history.

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Wow. What totally ignorant things to say about one of the landmark graphic novels in history.


Actually, novels in general. It did make Time's 100 greatest novels list

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John Byrne IS the new synonim for FAIL.

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John Byrne wrote:
I was watching a few minutes of the WATCHMEN movie on cable last night, and I found myself musing on the notion of a “prequel” or sequel to the original comicbook series.

In WATCHMEN, Moore inverted — I might say perverted — pretty much everything the superhero genre is all about. He was not the first to do so, but WATCHMEN was the first time we got it all in such a concentrated dose. Largely, this seems to have happened because Moore is very much a one trick pony. The one trick works for him and his fans, so no problem there, I guess. But this got me to thinking about who would be a suitable candidate to produce another round of WATCHMEN.

The thought began to take shape in my head that any revisiting of those characters should be a continuation of the “tradition” of WATCHMEN. That is, as Moore trashed everything superheroes were all about, the next go-round should do the same with WATCHMEN itself. So the ideal candidate for doing the project should be someone who is equally a one trick pony, but from the opposite end of the spectrum. Immediately, one name sprang to the forefront: Rob Liefeld.

No, I’m not kidding. Liefeld would be to WATCHMEN what Moore was to superheroes in general. And it would be such fun to watch a whole flock of retailer’s heads exploding, as they tried to serve two entirely different faces of mammon!

- John Byrne

Does he not understand Watchmen or is he just trying to enrage me?

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I like it! :)

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Give him to me before you smite him. I need to teach him a lesson. A very painful lesson. :evil:

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Jester wrote:
Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
WHERE DOES THIS BYRNE LIVE SO THAT MIGHT SMITE HIM?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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Give him to me before you smite him. I need to teach him a lesson. A very painful lesson. :evil:

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Before any smiting takes place, feast your eyes on this, and forgive.
May I say, Iconic?
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Jester wrote:
Give him to me before you smite him. I need to teach him a lesson. A very painful lesson. :evil:


A pretty blonde girl that cosplays Green Hornet and The Joker will teach him a lesson :) ?

Brooklyn, in your smiting we trust !

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Before any smiting takes place, feast your eyes on this, and forgive.


NEVER ! Although, that is probably one of the best unmasked Wolverines I've seen, that is certainly a character a lot of people don't get the look right.

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Unmasked Wolverine IN THE FUTURE

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Smutty wrote:
Unmasked Wolverine IN THE FUTURE


Damn right he is ! And by the way, I don't mean to be pushy, but where's my list :lol: ?

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Jester wrote:
Give him to me before you smite him. I need to teach him a lesson. A very painful lesson. :evil:


A pretty blonde girl that cosplays Green Hornet and The Joker will teach him a lesson :) ?


Of course, who else? My charm will get me through the door...then all hell shall break loose. :twisted:

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feliciano182 wrote:
Smutty wrote:
Unmasked Wolverine IN THE FUTURE


Damn right he is ! And by the way, I don't mean to be pushy, but where's my list :lol: ?


I already sent you the list before you even wrote this message. Ages ago.

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Smutty, in all fairness just because he has done iconic stuff doesn't mean he should be spared, other wise Frank Miller would have a get out of everything pass

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Just because they've done great things doesn't mean they get a free pass, I'm sorry Smutty, it must be done

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