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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:14 pm 
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So last night I shared the Kony 2012 video, for those that haven't seen it, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc

I gotta say, overall I liked the video and felt fairly convinced by it, enough to not be as lazy as to not push the share button. Even then, I couldn't avoid having issues with it, as well as with the entire campaign for that matter.

For starters, it's very manipulative, I felt the segments with the director's son, Jacob's testimony, and the endless camera angles soaring through crowds of people with the "Kony 2012" shirts were quite awkward, they really served no purpose besides trying to force people into getting involved with the campaign by means of their feelings and emotions, which isn't necessarily bad, but I felt there wasn't substance in terms of information or proper assesment on the situation in Uganda, I was asking who is the LRA ? Why are they hiding and fighting deep into so many countries ? What is Kony trying to accomplish ? Etcetera.

Afterwards, I did not feel ok with the whole "US military advisors" thing, it seems like the exact same thing one has seen happening whenever the US intervenes and fucks up worse than before, I kinda let it pass when I saw the video because it didn't seem like supporting a full-scale invasion or a tomahawk raid on a city filled with innocent people.

This video I found today of course, did not help my situation one bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7jzwn45--Y

So, you can all fairly see where I stand, what about you guys ? What do you think about this entire phenomenon ?

EDIT: The second youtube link now works.

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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For starters, it's very manipulative, I felt the segments with the director's son, Jacob's testimony, and the endless camera angles soaring through crowds of people with the "Kony 2012" shirts were quite awkward, they really served no purpose besides trying to force people into getting involved with the campaign by means of their feelings and emotions, which isn't necessarily bad, but I felt there wasn't substance in terms of information or proper assesment on the situation in Uganda, I was asking who is the LRA ? Why are they hiding and fighting deep into so many countries ? What is Kony trying to accomplish ? Etcetera.


Isn't that precisely the point?

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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feliciano182 wrote:
For starters, it's very manipulative, I felt the segments with the director's son, Jacob's testimony, and the endless camera angles soaring through crowds of people with the "Kony 2012" shirts were quite awkward, they really served no purpose besides trying to force people into getting involved with the campaign by means of their feelings and emotions, which isn't necessarily bad, but I felt there wasn't substance in terms of information or proper assesment on the situation in Uganda, I was asking who is the LRA ? Why are they hiding and fighting deep into so many countries ? What is Kony trying to accomplish ? Etcetera.


Isn't that precisely the point?


Like I said, it's not necessarily bad, but I felt like I needed more information instead of more shots of the director's kid babbling at a couple of pictures. If the cause is worthy enough, then certainly there's really no need for those segments.

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feliciano182 wrote:
If the cause is worthy enough, then certainly there's really no need for those segments.


There are many, many "worthy" causes out there, which is why I'd suspect someone would want to use those segments. You're trying to get the average person's attention.

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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Well. That came and went really quick. It's funny because the day after the Kony video hit big, ALOT of people at my school were sporting shirts concerning it and becoming massive activists then a week later it was like it never happened. I suppose that's the negative part of the Twitter generation: able to spread word in an unbelievably fast fashion but lacking the attention span to care for it more then a few days.

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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Well. That came and went really quick. It's funny because the day after the Kony video hit big, ALOT of people at my school were sporting shirts concerning it and becoming massive activists then a week later it was like it never happened. I suppose that's the negative part of the Twitter generation: able to spread word in an unbelievably fast fashion but lacking the attention span to care for it more then a few days.


Pretty much.

Though I must say, I didn't expect it to go away so quickly, when the "public masturbation" news hit it had already lost momentum.

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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feliciano182 wrote:
ViolentNewCountry wrote:
Well. That came and went really quick. It's funny because the day after the Kony video hit big, ALOT of people at my school were sporting shirts concerning it and becoming massive activists then a week later it was like it never happened. I suppose that's the negative part of the Twitter generation: able to spread word in an unbelievably fast fashion but lacking the attention span to care for it more then a few days.


Pretty much.

Though I must say, I didn't expect it to go away so quickly, when the "public masturbation" news hit it had already lost momentum.


Honestly I thought it was a good cause. Yeah, I'm not entirely for the organization behind it but something certainly needed to be done.

I recall the whole masturbation thing, in particular at lunch discussing it with someone. They were already cynical regarding the movement and said that the dude's scandal discredited the entire thing. I thought that was harsh and unnecessary. Not to get too political, but I mean I still found Bill Clinton to be a decent president regardless of the affair. I really don't like how people can't distinguish a person from their work.

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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First the bleeding hearts say they want the troops taken out of the middle east, and that it was wrong to kill sadam, and now they say they want the troops sent to uganda to kill kony.

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First the bleeding hearts say they want the troops taken out of the middle east, and that it was wrong to kill sadam, and now they say they want the troops sent to uganda to kill kony.


It's all propaganda.

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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Smutty wrote:
First the bleeding hearts say they want the troops taken out of the middle east, and that it was wrong to kill sadam, and now they say they want the troops sent to uganda to kill kony.


Bleeding Hearts ?

Still, it was one of the points made in the original video that made my face twist into a weird, uncomfortable, state of confusion, I mean, "petitioning the white house to take action in Uganda" ? What is happening here ?

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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t3cii wrote:
Smutty wrote:
First the bleeding hearts say they want the troops taken out of the middle east, and that it was wrong to kill sadam, and now they say they want the troops sent to uganda to kill kony.


It's all propaganda.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5cWAzXxLnU

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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feliciano182 wrote:
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First the bleeding hearts say they want the troops taken out of the middle east, and that it was wrong to kill sadam, and now they say they want the troops sent to uganda to kill kony.


Bleeding Hearts ?


People that are left wing just for the sake of it, without ever having any profound thoughts of their own and are only superficially informed.
See: Occupy Movement.

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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Smutty wrote:
People that are left wing just for the sake of it, without ever having any profound thoughts of their own and are only superficially informed. See: Occupy Movement.


Hardly.

Still, I see what you mean.

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