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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:24 pm 
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You're definitely approaching the end, but you've got a good few hours left at least, across 3 more locations...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:50 pm 
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Finished Deus Ex after spending all day on it.
Fantastic game. The epilogues are compelling. Only one of them really strikes me as the amoral choice.
I went with Darrow's.


how the hell did you finish it so quickly?

I wonder how far I have left to go, I'm in Hengsha for the second time,



I guess that AYB didn´t fuck around. Played every night( and one or another afternoon) since August 26 and managed me to end the game by the 30th, but I did every single mission except two in Shangai (not enough hacking skills to do the favor to Malik and the job to the bartender at the Hive).
It´s a 20 hour game at middle ground(a couple of side missions).

That being said, lately played a shitload of MW3 multiplayer interspread with MW3 campaign in Hardened and a a Human Revolution super save. And by that I´m talking about going for the 360 achievements for no kills, no alarms and the highest dificulty. The relief when I saw those suckers pop up...

Right now I´m taking a break off MW3 multiplayer. Doing another ME1-ME2 run, then I´m gonna go for Veteran achivements on MW3 campaign. After that I´m gonna redo one of my ME2 files and by then I´m probably gonna go for the last stars on MW3´s co-op mode.


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So I've been going through and completing all the side quests on Arkham Asylum and I have to say one of my favorite features of the game are the Riddles that the player has to solve. The inclusion of something like that shows again that Dini truly understands the Dark Knight and his corner of the DCU

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Playing Skyrim. Which is awesome.
Bethesda, I love you.
But contrary to popular opinion... its not revolutionary or anything. Its just really good.
Aside from a bigger map and more interesting terrain, not to mention better graphics, most times I still feel like I'm playing a Fallout game.
They're very similar in gameplay mechanics.

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Playing Skyrim. Which is awesome.
Bethesda, I love you.
But contrary to popular opinion... its not revolutionary or anything. Its just really good.
Aside from a bigger map and more interesting terrain, not to mention better graphics, most times I still feel like I'm playing a Fallout game.
They're very similar in gameplay mechanics.



... Have you played an Elder Scrolls game before?

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WJK wrote:
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Playing Skyrim. Which is awesome.
Bethesda, I love you.
But contrary to popular opinion... its not revolutionary or anything. Its just really good.
Aside from a bigger map and more interesting terrain, not to mention better graphics, most times I still feel like I'm playing a Fallout game.
They're very similar in gameplay mechanics.



... Have you played an Elder Scrolls game before?

No.
But this game, compared with every other game on the market, is not revolutionary.

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Playing Skyrim. Which is awesome.
Bethesda, I love you.
But contrary to popular opinion... its not revolutionary or anything. Its just really good.
Aside from a bigger map and more interesting terrain, not to mention better graphics, most times I still feel like I'm playing a Fallout game.
They're very similar in gameplay mechanics.



... Have you played an Elder Scrolls game before?

No.
But this game, compared with every other game on the market, is not revolutionary.


Then you have no idea what you are talking about, good sir.

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WJK wrote:
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NiteOwl wrote:
Playing Skyrim. Which is awesome.
Bethesda, I love you.
But contrary to popular opinion... its not revolutionary or anything. Its just really good.
Aside from a bigger map and more interesting terrain, not to mention better graphics, most times I still feel like I'm playing a Fallout game.
They're very similar in gameplay mechanics.



... Have you played an Elder Scrolls game before?

No.
But this game, compared with every other game on the market, is not revolutionary.


Then you have no idea what you are talking about, good sir.

Actually I'm going to stop listening to you about this game.
"It will rape everything you know about gaming."
Sorry Erik. It didnt do that. I'm mildy impressed, thouroughly entertained, but definately not blown away at all. And what you're saying is... to see this game as revolutionary, I have to play the others? Fuck that. A game, ANY game should be able to stand on its own and say "look at me, I did this." not "look at how much I'm better than my predecessor"

Skyrim is engagin and very entertaining. But it didn't blow me away.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:11 pm 
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I didn't say you needed to play previous TES games (though it certainly helps). It's just that you can't compare Skyrim to anything else out there, because it stands that well on its own.

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I didn't say you needed to play previous TES games (though it certainly helps). It's just that you can't compare Skyrim to anything else out there, because it stands that well on its own.


I haven't played it, so I'd kind of like you to expand on how it is so different from Oblivion/Fallout.

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I didn't say you needed to play previous TES games (though it certainly helps). It's just that you can't compare Skyrim to anything else out there, because it stands that well on its own.


I haven't played it, so I'd kind of like you to expand on how it is so different from Oblivion/Fallout.


While a lot of things from Oblivion transfer over to Skyrim, there are several differences that stand out:

1. Combat - In Oblivion, you pretty much could only fight with a sword/shield combo. In Skyrim, you can not only dual wield swords/knives/etc, you can also dual wield spells (while still having those weapons equipped mind you). Also, perks have been brought in instead of individually leveling skills. I just realized that last sentence was worded terribly - what I meant was when you level up, you can give skills perks.
2. Companions - In Skyrim, the Fighters' Guild (I wish they could have had both) has been removed in favor of bringing in companions, like you get in the Fallout games.
3. Size - Being that Skyrim was built entirely on a new game engine, the world is much larger than any other Bethesda game ever made. This is just the surface, mind you. There are over a hundred dungeons, each massive-sized as well. Shit, this one place called Blackreach is practically the size of the Imperial City.


That's just some of the stuff, essentially the game is Oblivion+Fallout3/NV=Skyrim

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3. Size - Being that Skyrim was built entirely on a new game engine,

That's just some of the stuff, essentially the game is Oblivion+Fallout3/NV=Skyrim


a) it's definitely NOT entirely new, it's a modified version of gamebryo

also, you say it's like Oblivion + Fallout, but you moaned at NiteOwl for saying it doesn't feel revolutionary after playing Fallout, seems a bit unfair :(

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3. Size - Being that Skyrim was built entirely on a new game engine,

That's just some of the stuff, essentially the game is Oblivion+Fallout3/NV=Skyrim


a) it's definitely NOT entirely new, it's a modified version of gamebryo

also, you say it's like Oblivion + Fallout, but you moaned at NiteOwl for saying it doesn't feel revolutionary after playing Fallout, seems a bit unfair :(


Nope, they built a new engine just for the game, although they plan to use it for future projects as well.

I only say essentially because it picks little pieces from those two games, but then takes those pieces and refurbishes them into something better than it originally was.

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3. Size - Being that Skyrim was built entirely on a new game engine,

That's just some of the stuff, essentially the game is Oblivion+Fallout3/NV=Skyrim


a) it's definitely NOT entirely new, it's a modified version of gamebryo

also, you say it's like Oblivion + Fallout, but you moaned at NiteOwl for saying it doesn't feel revolutionary after playing Fallout, seems a bit unfair :(


Nope, they built a new engine just for the game, although they plan to use it for future projects as well.

I only say essentially because it picks little pieces from those two games, but then takes those pieces and refurbishes them into something better than it originally was.

What I'm saying is, yes its a damn good game.
Bigger and mmore polished than oblivion or fallout 3/NV.
But, the fact remains the core gameplay, the lock picking, the fast travel, the waiting, the character interaction, and the control mapping is practically ported from other bethesda titles. Even combat feels familiar.
Having said that, each one of these aspects had been refined to make a more solid game overall in Skyrim... but still... its not something I would actually call "revolutionary".

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:36 am 
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Nope, they built a new engine just for the game, although they plan to use it for future projects as well.


If it's brand new, why does it apparently have so many problems and glitches that can be traced back to gamebryo code?

I'm not saying it is exactly the same engine, but the engine was built on top of what they already had, and as such cannot be claimed to be entirely new

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The engine that Skyrim uses is a newer version of an old engine. But it´s not piece of wonderous tech.

But when Bethesda starts using Id Tech 5(Rage´s engine) as their engine, it will be the real revolution...


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Guys, just how good is Deux Ex: Human Revolution ?

I'll soon be buying a new game, possibly two (maybe making this question a little pointless), but if you had to choose between Red Dead Redemption or Deus Ex, which would you say is the best ?

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Guys, just how good is Deux Ex: Human Revolution ?

I'll soon be buying a new game, possibly two (maybe making this question a little pointless), but if you had to choose between Red Dead Redemption or Deus Ex, which would you say is the best ?



Shit bro, you had to mix those two :lol:

Both awesome games. If you want a big game(GTA kind of size) and enjoy a wild west theme, go for RDR.

If you want a smaller game( Mass Effect kinda of big) and enjoy a futuristic,cyberpunk setting, Human Revolutiob is your game.

My vote goes for Human Revolution. Hope it helped...


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Guys, just how good is Deux Ex: Human Revolution ?

I'll soon be buying a new game, possibly two (maybe making this question a little pointless), but if you had to choose between Red Dead Redemption or Deus Ex, which would you say is the best ?


Red Dead all the way.

That's not a fair question.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:24 pm 
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I've never played RDR, but I've seen it plenty. Might get it eventually, but seems dependent on engrossing yourself to get much out of it. Deus Ex, on the other hand, is instantly thrilling and there's plenty of depth to sink your teeth into, so it gets my recommendation.

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