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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:52 am 
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How do you guys feel about the supposed "epilogue" that will appear on the Blu Ray 6th season? I don't know if this is a spoiler since the series is over, but some of you might want to be surprised if and when you buy the Blu Ray so I'll put this between spoilers: The epilogue is about 10-15 minutes long and will help flesh out Ben and Hurley's time on the island as island protectors. There's also a rumour that Walt may make an appearance.

On one hand it's nice that this will be a self contained mystery, and that we would be seeing more Lost in the future. On the other hand, it kind of ruins the ambiguity of their time on the island if we see what they've been up to. This might have been best left up to the imagination.


I hate that it's going to be on Blue Ray. Fuck you, format wars, I don't want to expend on a blue ray player yet.
But If it isn't like the Harry Potter epilogue, it's ok by me.

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:59 am 
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Stop jumping to conclusions. It's not been confirmed whether this is Blu-ray exclusive (unlikely), Complete Collection exclusive (possible), or on all versions of the DVDs and Blu-rays. It'll be all over Youtube regardless.

And I was just having a discussion with my friends that I would totally watch a hilarious Hurley and Ben spinoff about their time on the island.

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BlackDoomShadow wrote:
And I was just having a discussion with my friends that I would totally watch a hilarious Hurley and Ben spinoff about their time on the island.


It still wouldn't be better than "Ford & Straum: L.A. Homicide"

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And I was just having a discussion with my friends that I would totally watch a hilarious Hurley and Ben spinoff about their time on the island.


It still wouldn't be better than "Ford & Straum: L.A. Homicide"


I'm bummed that nobody has yet to create a Miami Vice style opening credits for that.

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:34 pm 
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I just realized how some characters who aren't main characters still received redemption or closure in the "alternate timeline." Eloise Hawking is a great example. She has always been a controversial "Mrs. Exposition" character, but the core tenant of her character is that she believes whatever happened, happened, and no amount of time travel or afterlife shenanigans should change that. Ultimately, in the afterlife we learn why she so badly didn't want Desmond to take Daniel away from her: she killed him herself when he was time traveling, as we saw, and the afterlife is where she can finally be with him and she doesn't want Desmond to take him away. What is most interesting is Eloise is not following "the rules," but is breaking them. Daniel is supposed to move on and go to whatever awaits in the great beyond, but Eloise intentionally violates her own beliefs in order to keep her son. I think that's an excellent resolution to a difficult and polarizing character.

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:42 pm 
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Daniel is supposed to move on and go to whatever awaits in the great beyond, but Eloise intentionally violates her own beliefs in order to keep her son. I think that's an excellent resolution to a difficult and polarizing character.


I thought it was very beautiful how Desmond gave her comfort and told her that he wouldn't take him from her, reminding us once again that it's all about choosing.

By the way ? why aren't we talking about the contaminating amount of symbolism inside the church ? unless there actually is a legitimate temple with christian crosses, buddhas, yin-yangs, jewish stars, etc. :lol:

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I thought it was very beautiful how Desmond gave her comfort and told her that he wouldn't take him from her, reminding us once again that it's all about choosing.


Except that doesn't explain how she is there in the afterlife. Unless she is unwilling to except her own death as well as Daniel's.

The more that I think about the ending to the flashsideways the more I dislike it. While it works on an emotional level, much of it doesn't make a lot of sense. What's more, take out the flashsideways altogether and I'm not sure this season would have been poorer for it.

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I thought it was very beautiful how Desmond gave her comfort and told her that he wouldn't take him from her, reminding us once again that it's all about choosing.


Except that doesn't explain how she is there in the afterlife. Unless she is unwilling to except her own death as well as Daniel's.

The more that I think about the ending to the flashsideways the more I dislike it. While it works on an emotional level, much of it doesn't make a lot of sense. What's more, take out the flashsideways altogether and I'm not sure this season would have been poorer for it.


Where the hell does all of this come from :o ? weren't you Mr. "I was sleeping thinking about the afterlife" :lol: ?

I think it works the same as every element on LOST, ambiguously, but it works, it is certainly curious why she is there, specially when thinking about Christian's comments, but it works very well in any case.

If there is anything that really didn't make sense from the afterlife thing was the looks of the characters, we don't see anyone as old as they should've been when they died, that is of course pressuming that many of them died of age; but then again, thinking about this could be an endless path because it can't have a reasonable answer, one could even complain about why they had clothes in the afterlife and still be right.

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Why...wouldn't she be there? Everyone dies. Eloise was an important part of Desmond's life and so she was there too. And the reason everyone looks like they did during the show's course instead of old or whatever they'd look like when they die is hinted by Christian's comment that these are the people with whom they spent the most important part of their lives; many religions theorize that when you go to the afterlife you will look like whatever you did when you were happiest.

And as for the flashsideways "not making sense"...there's no way you can explain that. It was somehow created by the survivors so they could find each other again when they died. That's it. There's no scientific, logical, reasonable explanation for something like that. Maybe all of us die and go on to some bizarre flashsideways where we have to find the people we loved most to remember what happened when we were alive and then move on, it wasn't just the survivors who were somehow in their own little purgatory after they died.

So what Lost is saying is when we die we go somewhere where we first have to find our loved ones before we can move on. That's it. There is no explanation. It doesn't need one.

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BlackDoomShadow wrote:
And the reason everyone looks like they did during the show's course instead of old or whatever they'd look like when they die is hinted by Christian's comment that these are the people with whom they spent the most important part of their lives; many religions theorize that when you go to the afterlife you will look like whatever you did when you were happiest.


Call me crazy, but that is THE FIRST time that I've heard that :lol: !

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Where the hell does all of this come from :o ? weren't you Mr. "I was sleeping thinking about the afterlife" :lol: ?


Well, the episode ended at 11:30. I spent maybe a half hour checking out the initial reaction on the web, then went to bed. The next morning I was still buzzing from all the feel goodness about seeing everyone happy. Like I said, the scene worked on an emotional level, and the last shots of Jack walking through the bamboo worked perfectly. But as I've been reading other's thoughts about the episode and other's problems I beginning to see the finale in a different, poorer light, and mostly it's because of the mechanics of the afterlife, not that the idea itself is hard to explain:

- In "The Beginning of the End", Charlie appears to Hurley and tells him he has to go back to the island because the others need him (which turned out to be not true when you think about it). Okay, so Charlie's dead, right? He's coming from the afterlife, right? So why in season 6 is he in purgatory (or whatever you want to call it) with Hurley? Why is Hurley more in the know than Charlie? If we are made to believe that Hurley spoke with Charlie in season 4, then why are they going through the afterlife again together?

- In "The Lie", Anna Lucia appears to Hurley as he's trying to drive around Sayid who has lost consciousness. So she's appearing to him from the afterlife. She also tells him that Libby said "hi". So clearly both those characters are dead and in acceptance of their fates. So why is that Anna Lucia doesn't know who Hurley is in the afterlife, and that she isn't ready to move on?

- I didn't realize it when first watching it, but quite a few faces were missing at the church. Miles isn't there even though he has just as much a right to be there as some of the other characters. He lived with Sawyer, Jin, Juliet, and Daniel for three years. He's known Sawyer longer than Hurley has. And he presumably got to know Sawyer, Kate and co in the years to come. Same with Frank. Daniel and Charlotte maybe didn't spend as much time with everyone else, but Daniel helped Desmond see the light, so why didn't Desmond return the favour?

- Other things seem odd when you start to really think about them. Why did Jack and Juliet have a son together? Or, maybe more accurately, why did they create a son together in this afterlife? If Jack wanted a son why didn't he just imaging his wife to be his ex wife? Or Kate? Why was Artz a co worker of Ben's when the two never met? Why did Locke come up with that strange bit about his dad?

- If time has no meaning in the afterlife, then why do they have to wait for characters to be ready to move on? And why did time seem to be of the essence? Why have Desmond go through all that nonsense of getting himself arrested and rescuing Kate and Sayid when none of it was real?

The thing about the ending is that it only works as a send off for these characters, but not as an ending to the series. It just kind of comes out of nowhere. With the twists to episodes like "Walkabout", or "Through the Looking Glass" or "The Incident", they all managed to make you think "why didn't I see that coming?". They all became clear in hindsight. I don't think that's the case for "The End". It seems like something they just came up with in the last season. Jughead turned out to be a complete dead end, and this season just prolonged that dead end. And, as I said in an earlier post, I think this season could have worked just as well, maybe better, if you took out these flash sideways. If they wanted to imply an afterlife they still could have done so. Remember when Eko died? And he started to remember himself and his brother as kids? That was a moving and subtle hint of an afterlife. They could have done the same thing here.

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I've decided to resurrect this thread in light of the upcoming series DVD release. And to talk about a sneak peek for the 11 minute special that will be included on the DVD, "The New Man In Charge", which will show us what Hurley and Ben did in those unknown years as the island's protectors. It answers one small unanswered mystery, and hopefully the special will also work as an individual piece. Still, it's new Lost so I'm not complaining:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7uzGKl7flE

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:04 pm 
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t3cii wrote:
I've decided to resurrect this thread in light of the upcoming series DVD release. And to talk about a sneak peek for the 11 minute special that will be included on the DVD, "The New Man In Charge", which will show us what Hurley and Ben did in those unknown years as the island's protectors. It answers one small unanswered mystery, and hopefully the special will also work as an individual piece. Still, it's new Lost so I'm not complaining:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7uzGKl7flE


You know, it leaked onto the internet.

...I already have it :oops:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:19 pm 
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You know, it leaked onto the internet.

...I already have it :oops:


Don't worry. I've seen it. ;)

It wasn't that good.

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EPIC BUMP

It's worth it.

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Funny, but pretty old.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... cF7dYADsw#!

I actually felt that way about Lapidus every time he showed up.

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You're only seeing this now? :?

Also, you don't fuck with the Lapidus. If he had been flying Oceanic, it never would have crashed. I think he was a casualty of the writers strikes as I think he was supposed to get more of a back story. Why couldn't he have flown the plane when he was supposed to? Why does he look like a bum when we first meet him? What made him clean up his act?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:27 pm 
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You're only seeing this now? :?


Nothing I post here is new to anyone :cry: !

*runs away crying shamefuly*

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[NOTE: Overdue thread merge! --"Curiosity Inc."]

My win-o-meter fucking broke at this:

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