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how did Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns start the Dark Age? I know the Comedian and rorschach are cool but still, I don't know how they contributed to the mess that was the Dark Age of comic books. How did that happen so easily?

What happened was that the comic book industry tried to replicate the successes of Watchmen and DKR. Unfortunately, they concluded that the books succeeded because they were dark and gritty, rather than because they were intelligent. It also didn't help that the collector craze was big back then, with new comic book series getting shoved out constantly so that "Collector's Edition #1" issues could be released.

So, yeah: Forced grittiness + Holofoil covers + Rob Liefeld = The Dark Age

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This is truly a madhouse. And I'm the lunatic running it. I've spent three years wondering if I should be proud or ashamed.

Yeah, it's kind of like what Superhero movies are doing in response to TDK, it is realistic, therefore it did well, so now every hero is getting the "realism" treatment but guys like Superman, Green Lantern, Deadpool, The X-Men and most major heroes can't be placed in a realistic world.

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@RealSlimCAvery

not without removing all the good villains. hence why every superman movie has lex luthor. seriously, they need to throw in braniac or darkseid. if chris nolan makes The Man of Steel, i want supes to fly to other planets and not defend earth for a sixth time.

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I see follow the leader and they didn't really do it well chunring out only muck and mud.





"Realism" isn't possible with such heroes erspecialy with all that goes on in their stories. I do enjoy some comics but superheroes aew all about being being heroic, defeating the villain, saving the world and basically being demigods. Even Batman is fantastic in some circles especially in how his rogues gallery is formed, in Watchmen the characters felt so mortal and human that it feels more believable than any book in the mainstream nowadays.

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@RealSlimCAvery

Maybe not Dr.Manhattan.

Then I would turn your attention to Kick-Ass and to a much lesser extent Invincible. Kick-Ass (the book) none of them have powers (the movie can be argued that Hit-Girl is actually neo) and Invincible even though the main character has powers, he is very human in everything he does

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@RealSlimCAvery

i don't know if i'd call being hit by a car and having to have loads of metal plates and stuff put in, and nerve damage a "power" as such.

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We're all actors, Laurie. I'm just an actor who read the script.

I didn't call it a power and I don't expect you to. I said movie Hit-Girl ahs borderline superpowers when she like flipps clips in the air and catches them at a full run, and her over all just Neo atmosphere. I never said Kick-Ass has powers, because he doesn't

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@RealSlimCAvery

i misunderstood, i read your post wrong, i thought you were calling hit girl invincible then saying "the main character has powers" still thinking you were talking about kick-ass, rather than talking about the series "Invincible"

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We're all actors, Laurie. I'm just an actor who read the script.

it's all good, I actually reread your post and mine and it dawned on me where you were coming from

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

But we can be friends... because we both admitted we were wrong... hooray for admittance of errors!

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