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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:07 pm 
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"I used to let them live."

Rorschach has killed plenty of people.


Yeah, from '75 (Malcolm Long confirms this) to '85 rorschach was violent in the way he dealt with criminals and he said himself that before 75 he let them live, over 10 years I'm sure he has a massive body count

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Godziller66 wrote:

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Couldn't you call any superhero a serial killer then?

Yeah, any superhero who murders people on a regular basis.


And soldiers? Our sons, daughters, fathers, husbands, brothers, friends in the Armed Forces who've served during wartime? Are they serial killers, too?


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Huge difference between vigilantes and soldiers bro.
Your comment makes you sound like a liberal conservative.

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Godziller66 wrote:

Une Fille Attriste wrote:
Couldn't you call any superhero a serial killer then?

Yeah, any superhero who murders people on a regular basis.


And soldiers? Our sons, daughters, fathers, husbands, brothers, friends in the Armed Forces who've served during wartime? Are they serial killers, too?



you know 5% of soldiers score 95% of kills or something like that, you'd be surprised how few soldiers actually do any killing.

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Rorschach IS a serial killer, a mission-based one. What makes him different from other serial killers is that he's not psychotic (out of touch with reality) and he doesn't kill for sexual pleasure or material gain.

(Even if he DID only kill two--which I doubt, considering the ten years and all--he was fully prepared to kill again.)

And war is totally different, it's kill or be killed. It's not like serial killers, who just waltz around killing who ever, whenever they please.

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Rorschach is the spitting image of psychotic, Jester. He kills as he sees fit, usually the case with any serial killer.

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WJK wrote:
Rorschach is the spitting image of psychotic, Jester. He kills as he sees fit, usually the case with any serial killer.


Hmm. Yeah, sorry, poor choice of words. I was just trying to convey that he has no breaks from reality. He doesn't see hallucinations that drive him to kill or anything. He's crazy, yes, but not in a schizophrenic way.

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Jester wrote:
WJK wrote:
Rorschach is the spitting image of psychotic, Jester. He kills as he sees fit, usually the case with any serial killer.


Hmm. Yeah, sorry, poor choice of words. I was just trying to convey that he has no breaks from reality. He doesn't see hallucinations that drive him to kill or anything. He's crazy, yes, but not in a schizophrenic way.

The majority of serial killers actually aren't psychotic in the way you define it.

They just like to kill people.

Edit: Nevermind, you pretty much covered it in your other post. Sexual pleasure, material gain.

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what if Kovacs found a homeless child with parents dead.

ok ok lemme riff *rorschach never died*

"Rorscach's Journal: October 14th 1990... found small child in alley. Starving. Violent. He bit me on leg. It hurt. I brought the child some food, Dan was only kind enough to leave out a can of beans. I ask child if he wants them heated. He says "No... fine like this." Child reminds me of myself, a product of a corrupt society. I shall watch out for the child, teach him how the world really is. Better to take him under wing than leave him to the orphanages and foster homes. He finished can of beans in under 30 seconds. I'll have to introduce him to Dan. Hurm."

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what if Kovacs found a homeless child with parents dead.

ok ok lemme riff *rorschach never died*

"Rorscach's Journal: October 14th 1990... found small child in alley. Starving. Violent. He bit me on leg. It hurt. I brought the child some food, Dan was only kind enough to leave out a can of beans. I ask child if he wants them heated. He says "No... fine like this." Child reminds me of myself, a product of a corrupt society. I shall watch out for the child, teach him how the world really is. Better to take him under wing than leave him to the orphanages and foster homes. He finished can of beans in under 30 seconds. I'll have to introduce him to Dan. Hurm."

HOO HOO!


You get awesome points for making me laugh with that little bit. :D

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nah, rorschach would leave the kid (who would be scared to death of him) to fend for himself.

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Jester wrote:
NiteOwl wrote:
what if Kovacs found a homeless child with parents dead.

ok ok lemme riff *rorschach never died*

"Rorscach's Journal: October 14th 1990... found small child in alley. Starving. Violent. He bit me on leg. It hurt. I brought the child some food, Dan was only kind enough to leave out a can of beans. I ask child if he wants them heated. He says "No... fine like this." Child reminds me of myself, a product of a corrupt society. I shall watch out for the child, teach him how the world really is. Better to take him under wing than leave him to the orphanages and foster homes. He finished can of beans in under 30 seconds. I'll have to introduce him to Dan. Hurm."

HOO HOO!


You get awesome points for making me laugh with that little bit. :D

I did the voice too when i was typing it
hurm.

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"Rorschach's Journal October 16th 1990, should've listened to gut. Boy is difficult, headstrong. Doesn't comply. Maybe best for him to fend for himself. Can't bring myself to put him out on streets yet. Found small place under bridge. Keeps him out of the rain. He eats like animal. Dan think's i should give him to state, Laurie was furious when she saw the child in my care, she obviously doesnt approve. The boy growled at her. When has she ever approved. Hurm. Headache. The boy killed a cat today with grappling hook. Took forever to clean off blood. Feel frustrated. Found myself counting backwards from ten. hurm."

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:44 pm 
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WJK wrote:
nah, rorschach would leave the kid (who would be scared to death of him) to fend for himself.

Probably. Either that or turn him into the officials, I imagine.

Though he doesn't have the best relationship with the police...

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Godziller66 wrote:
WJK wrote:
nah, rorschach would leave the kid (who would be scared to death of him) to fend for himself.

Probably. Either that or turn him into the officials, I imagine.

Though he doesn't have the best relationship with the police...


i'm actually with jester on the fact that he has enough compassion to not leave the kid to fend for himself, and i doubt he'd turn the kid over to any officials, if he believed "the system" worked he wouldn't be a vigilante in the first place.

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AvatarIII wrote:
Godziller66 wrote:
WJK wrote:
nah, rorschach would leave the kid (who would be scared to death of him) to fend for himself.

Probably. Either that or turn him into the officials, I imagine.

Though he doesn't have the best relationship with the police...


i'm actually with jester on the fact that he has enough compassion to not leave the kid to fend for himself, and i doubt he'd turn the kid over to any officials, if he believed "the system" worked he wouldn't be a vigilante in the first place.

thats what i see in my head.
maybe i also see an illustrated fan fic... hmm.

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It Is necessary to feel extreme passion, pleasure or re´morse or sexual perversities in order to officially be a serial killer.

If you are in the mob and you happn to kill people like flies you still are not a f serial killer.
You are just a messed up killer.

If killer-superheroes are serial killers, why aren't the mob?

It's a more or less same situation.

They aren't passionate....it\s just a job like any other.
Only ones do it for money and the other ones for....other reasons.

They don't feel too passionate about it, mostly.
What do you think about suppervillains?

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Une Fille Attriste wrote:
It Is necessary to feel extreme passion, pleasure or re´morse or sexual perversities in order to officially be a serial killer.

If you are in the mob and you happn to kill people like flies you still are not a f serial killer.
You are just a messed up killer.

If killer-superheroes are serial killers, why aren't the mob?

It's a more or less same situation.

They aren't passionate....it\s just a job like any other.
Only ones do it for money and the other ones for....other reasons.

They don't feel too passionate about it, mostly.
What do you think about suppervillains?

You're dead wrong if you think Rorschach isn't passionate about what he does.

He kills for psychological gratification. That's what makes a serial killer.

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Une Fille Attriste wrote:

They aren't passionate....it\s just a job like any other.
Only ones do it for money and the other ones for....other reasons.


You don't think killing some one for a) money or 2) so you won't be killed wouldn't give you some what of passion?

Godziller66 wrote:
You're dead wrong if you think Rorschach isn't passionate about what he does.

He kills for psychological gratification. That's what makes a serial killer.

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Godziller66 wrote:
Une Fille Attriste wrote:
It Is necessary to feel extreme passion, pleasure or re´morse or sexual perversities in order to officially be a serial killer.

If you are in the mob and you happn to kill people like flies you still are not a f serial killer.
You are just a messed up killer.

If killer-superheroes are serial killers, why aren't the mob?

It's a more or less same situation.

They aren't passionate....it\s just a job like any other.
Only ones do it for money and the other ones for....other reasons.

They don't feel too passionate about it, mostly.
What do you think about suppervillains?

You're dead wrong if you think Rorschach isn't passionate about what he does.

He kills for psychological gratification. That's what makes a serial killer.


he's passionate about what he does, but it's not the killing that gives him the gratification, it's the knowledge that he's taken someone that he considers to be bad out of the world. it's no different than an exterminator taking pride in wiping out a rat infestation, that doesn't make an exterminator a sicko.
someone that finds a rat trapped and decides to slit it's throat to watch the blood run out is a sicko, and statistically he's killed a lot less rats.

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Godziller66 wrote:
Une Fille Attriste wrote:
It Is necessary to feel extreme passion, pleasure or re´morse or sexual perversities in order to officially be a serial killer.

If you are in the mob and you happn to kill people like flies you still are not a f serial killer.
You are just a messed up killer.

If killer-superheroes are serial killers, why aren't the mob?

It's a more or less same situation.

They aren't passionate....it\s just a job like any other.
Only ones do it for money and the other ones for....other reasons.

They don't feel too passionate about it, mostly.
What do you think about suppervillains?

You're dead wrong if you think Rorschach isn't passionate about what he does.

He kills for psychological gratification. That's what makes a serial killer.


he's passionate about what he does, but it's not the killing that gives him the gratification, it's the knowledge that he's taken someone that he considers to be bad out of the world. it's no different than an exterminator taking pride in wiping out a rat infestation, that doesn't make an exterminator a sicko.
someone that finds a rat trapped and decides to slit it's throat to watch the blood run out is a sicko, and statistically he's killed a lot less rats.


You're a pretty scary dude, AvatarIII.

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