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Okay, we've had a lot of threads derailed by talk of hipsters so I figured it'd be safer to just make a thread for discussion as opposed to hijacking every thread under the sun.

Here is what the every scholarly Urban Dctionary has to say about the matter, and for the most part that's what I think of hipsters as.

They are very real no matter what any of you non-americans want to say

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Yeahno.

I couldn't really give two shits about how someone dresses. If someone is a pretentious douche bag, personality wise, then it doesn't matter what they wear. Because they're still a pretentious douche bag.

I went to a party last year and started talking to this guy who I had never met before. We spent the night talking like we were best mates or something. I ended up adding him on Facebook and saw his photos to discover he's the biggest hipster ever. Still, he's an hilarious dude with a great taste in movies. But most people on this board would give him shit for how he dresses ... Hell, even I do. But I know he's a cool guy so I couldn't really care.

I know people with typical "Hipsters" attitudes who are just regular people. Or just nerds like us. There actually many classic hipster quotes directly from members of this forum (No, I will not sift through pages of threads to provide examples).

Like I've said before, it's just the new "Us vs Them" situation that happened with "Emo's" a few years back. Give it 5 years or so and we'll all be hating a new group of people.

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I agree with you, hipsters can be cool people, but their arrogant douchey nature gets inthe way a lot of times.

But there are arrogant douches who aren't hipsters

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Which is my point really.

A guy who was in one of my computing classes in high school was the biggest arrogant douche I knew at that school. He spoke down on me with this fucking air of superiority and spat on my music tastes and treated me like a fuckhead when I said I liked a band he did too. This is what most people consider the hated "Hipster attitude", but if you saw this guy walking down the street you would just call him an average guy.

The whole thing seems to be more about the fashion side of things. It seems easier that way. For all we know, there are hipsters out there who are actually educated in comics and not just on the movie adaptions. Shock! Horror!

Also, I never read Scott Pilgrim or The Walking Dead series before watching their adaptions. I must be a hipster. Fuuu-

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No you don't become a hipster until you start telling eople you liked it before it was popular... when the comic has been popular since like 2003.

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If they drank better beer than Pabst, I wouldn't have a problem with them.

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Uhhmmm, no , that is an exageration.

It is different that we fool around by mentioning how hipsters usually dress, and even if it is possible to identify hipsters by the way they dress.

But, for example, yesterday we were talking about Nemesis # 4, in this issue a character appears with a set of black rimmed glasses that we never saw before, we joked about in reality this character was actually a hipster all along and we didn't knew.

This guy you met, to my understanding, is not a hipster, the latter would pretend he knows a lot about movies and make a big deal about it because he saw a Federico Fellini movie once, a long time ago, in some cases he would make sure that people knew how anti-hollywood he is because he saw that movie, for example.

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Ding Ding ding! We have a winner!

It's different to watch movies, but it's not okay to try and cram down everyone's throat that you watch movie's no one has heard of because that makes you cool... no it doesn't.

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Yeahno.

Pretentious douche bags like that have been around long before the term "hipster" was being used. Do you really think that people have only been mentioning small, indie movies in the last 5 or so years to appear cool? Yeah, sorry to burst your bubble, but there have been dickheads like that long before this "I hate hipsters" thing came along.

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Pretentious douche bags didn't brag about knowing about Batman before The Dark Knight came along, even when they didn't, pretentious douch bags didn't thought it was cool to be anti-mainstream or anti-hollywood, the latter is key element in the hipster movement, because it is only now that people have begun to think that being anti-establishment (in entertainment) is cool.

Don't worry Dr. B, I'll defend the anti-hipster coalition !

And Happy New Year everyone !

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LOLOLOL!!!

That was an awesome joke, Feli.

Great laugh to bring in the new year!

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Okay, I think I've gone long enough without commenting on hipsters.

As some of you know, I'm a native of Portland, OR. Those of you with any remote familiarity of my city will know that with the possible and debatable exception of Seattle, our hipster culture is second to none. In fact, I think it's entirely possible that I'm a hipster for no better reason than because I was born and raised here.

Seriously, if you want to know the definition of a hipster, come by the city, go to Pioneer Courthouse Square, visit Powell's Bookstore or take a ride on the MAX and just look at people. If you want an idea of their mindset, pick up the latest copy of Willamette Week. If you want to see them in their native habitat, go to a concert or an event at any bar in the city (there are districts where we've got a bar, tavern or strip club on every block). Alternatively, you could walk down Hawthorne, Belmont, Mississippi Ave, 23rd Ave or anyplace in the Pearl District and find yourself overwhelmed with pretentious art stores, handmade jewelry shops and local fashion boutiques. Oh, and if you want to see the true hipster HQ, full of more handmade goods, Bohemian ideals, anti-commercial sentiments and street buskers than you'd ever care to see, just come by Skidmore Fountain in Old Town -- on the west coast of the Willamette -- for a little thing we call the Saturday Market.

This city is positively overrun with hipster culture, yet that's part of what makes it great. I love Christmas shopping at obscure and locally-owned stores, safe in the knowledge that I'm avoiding the holiday rush and buying something truly unique, not to mention supporting the local economy on the side. I love the fact that there's color and music and art around every corner downtown. This is my world, people. And I love it. I absolutely love my city.

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This is truly a madhouse. And I'm the lunatic running it. I've spent three years wondering if I should be proud or ashamed.

I wouldn't necessarily consider owning a unique shop a hipster thing... but that might just be me. Although I agree I like shopping locally when I can

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I wasn't going to respond to this thread because I felt I already made my point (and see Lil' Bernie saying more or less what I would be saying). I will say, though, that it's not like I'm completely ignorant to the image or idea of hipsters. But when you start making generalizations like "they dress a certain way" or "they pretend to like this", I think the word "poseur" is more suitable, and less reliant on fashion or musical taste. Also, it's funny that Dr Brooklyn and WJK seem to be under the impression that Lil Bernie and myself live out in the middle of nowhere. I can't speak for Bernie, but I can tell you that Toronto is kind of a big city. Very diverse. I'm certain if you visited, you would feel it had tons of hipsters.



I don't know anything about Portland, but it looks much nicer and cleaner than I was expecting, just going by Google. I know how that sounds, but if hipsters hang out in such pleasant looking places, that doesn't sound too bad. It kind of lacks a certain kitschiness, or seediness, though. You certainly have us beat in the public transportation department, with a seemingly wide variety of streetcars.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Two words: Environmental awareness. Portland is a very green city with very clean air, principally because -- as per the hipster mindset -- any pollution is evil. Recycling bins are everywhere and failing to use them is frowned upon. Hell, we're even making headway to clean up the Willamette River and the Columbia Slough, something that previous generations would've considered impossible.

Plus, we get most of our power from dams along the Columbia River, so even our energy is clean.

No, our streetcar is just limited to downtown. Our light-rail system and bus network, on the other hand, is very robust. And if you think that's impressive, you should see what we've been doing for joggers and bicyclists. Again, it all goes back to the eco-friendly image that hipsters are so proud of.

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This is truly a madhouse. And I'm the lunatic running it. I've spent three years wondering if I should be proud or ashamed.

So is Toronto's, but yours at least look more modern and up to date.







Toronto Streetcar



Ours don't even have air conditioning and I can't remember when they were last replaced. We won't be getting new ones until 2012, and the reason I brought up the streetcars is the new ones almost look like your current ones.



Toronto transit is a bit of a joke. Although at least we'll be getting new subway trains.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

I'm very confused, so can someone please clarify for me what a Hipster is? In the TWD thread (which got hijacked by the hipster discussion) it sounded as if Hipsters were just people who followed trends, and had little knowledge of what they were supporting/doing, for example, they wouldn't have known that TWD was based off a series of Graphic Novels until it said in the opening credits. But in this thread, I seem to have got the impression that Hipsters are those who try to show that they are different from "the crowd" by wearing stuff from independent stores, and being a bit "alternative", so instead of following the trend and reading something like Twilight (or hating on it), they would read some obscure, forgotten "classic".

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Where did you get that idea?

I live in the middle of nowhere, I know tToronto is a big city.



See? That's why we hate hipsters. They read thigns like Twilight because t's ironic to like something so popular, but then at the same time they hate things that are really popular.

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Brooklyn. You're not making any goddamn sense.

Probably because you misread tbone's post.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

No he said he thinks hipsters only follow trends, but according to their own logic they should be reading things that aren't trendy.

I agreed said that's the dichotomy of hipsters... they follow the trends but act like it's not a trend.

Hence my statement of Hipsters readng Twilight and liking it "ironically" and yet they buy the shirts, read the books, see the movies etc.

And that's what I hate about hipsters. Like when it was cool to hate Lady Gga hipsters hated her, but now that she's popular they act like they've always liked her... so they can say they liked her before she was cool.

If that doesn't make sense to you be glad, that means you're still sane.

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