Jester wrote:
I don't even know why I'm posting here, it's just an argument and no body ever wins stuff like this. I guess I'm just bored and I kind of miss the forum. Anyway, I'll toss in my two cents.
My feelings on this lay pretty close to t3cii's.
The term has actually been around for quite a while, and like t3cii I feel "hipsters" are more of a concept than anything and the problem is this: The word "hipster" means different things to different people.
Brooklyn has associated the term hipster with the kids who are "pretentious" and "act like they like stuff just because it makes them look cool" along with being obsessed with not appearing "mainstream." He listed off stuff about them being "liberal, all about the environment, anti-Hollywood, est." but I don't think it's so much about kids being concerned with this stuff that annoys him as it is them pretending to care about the subjects to look cool. So I just tie all that back into "pretentious, acting like you like something to look cool."
Or maybe it does annoy him, and since he's learned to use the word "hipster" to describe stuff that annoys him, he automatically labels people who like this stuff as "hipsters." And unfortunately, he also labels anyone who LOOKS like the people who annoy him with the same term.
T3cii, however, just associates the aforementioned bad behaviors as "being an asshole," so he already has a word to describe kids like that. That means "hipsters" is a pointless, empty term for him, especially Brooklyn's definition. Therefore, for t3cii, hipsters don't exist. Just assholes.
For me, my best friend dresses close to how Brooklyn keeps claiming "hipsters" look, but she doesn't match his definition of "pretentious" or "liking things just to look cool" so obviously, Brooklyn's case has some holes. And vice versa, I know kids who seem to act "pretentious" and "like things just to look cool" but they don't look like Brookyln's definition of hipster at all. (If anything they're more preppy and sporty.") So are THEY hipsters?
Again, it just depends on your personal definition, IMO.
Savor the moment. A Jester post on the forum is like a shooting star nowadays.
