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Round 46
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:19 pm 
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Also... don't consider the Bendis retcon Moon Knight... please...


I was actually talking about the Doug Moench run (I think) where apparently he doesn't have DID, even if the Shadowland issues explicitly said he had four different personalities.

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
Also... don't consider the Bendis retcon Moon Knight... please...


I was actually talking about the Doug Moench run (I think) where apparently he doesn't have DID, even if the Shadowland issues explicitly said he had four different personalities.


Alright, here's how that breaks down. He doesn't have DID proper. When he first started he had 4 alter egos (Spector, Lockely, Grant, and MK) that he would switch through at will (think Bruce Wayne, MAtches Malone, Batman). As time went by he started to go a bit off his rocker and the pressure just got to him and he started to snap, which resulted in his mind no longing realizing he was at heart Marc Spector, he started to flip between the 4 with no control. In a way it's more a form of schizophrenia, but even then it's not really. It's just a guy who's snapped under the years of killing and living as a vigilante. Did you actually read the Moench run? Isn't it awesome?

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
Alright, here's how that breaks down. He doesn't have DID proper. When he first started he had 4 alter egos (Spector, Lockely, Grant, and MK) that he would switch through at will (think Bruce Wayne, MAtches Malone, Batman). As time went by he started to go a bit off his rocker and the pressure just got to him and he started to snap, which resulted in his mind no longing realizing he was at heart Marc Spector, he started to flip between the 4 with no control. In a way it's more a form of schizophrenia, but even then it's not really. It's just a guy who's snapped under the years of killing and living as a vigilante. Did you actually read the Moench run? Isn't it awesome?


I haven't read the Moench run, or any Moon Knight run, but at least it's a decent explanation for what Moon Knight's illness might be, certainly much better than having four perfectly functional and useful alter egos.

And what's wrong with Bendis' run ?

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I haven't read the Moench run, or any Moon Knight run, but at least it's a decent explanation for what Moon Knight's illness might be, certainly much better than having four perfectly functional and useful alter egos.


Yeah, at first he was just acting... but then it just became way too much.

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And what's wrong with Bendis' run ?


Everything except the art. He said in a review he was going to change the character at a fundamental level, then he rewrote MK's origin, job, and made his id's the various avengers Now he thinks he's, say, Wolverine and he puts on fake claws and routinely says the word Bub. He's also thought he's Spidey, Cap, and some others.

Yeah... YOU tell me what's wrong with that

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
He said in a review he was going to change the character at a fundamental level, then he rewrote MK's origin, job, and made his id's the various avengers Now he thinks he's, say, Wolverine and he puts on fake claws and routinely says the word Bub. He's also thought he's Spidey, Cap, and some others.

Yeah... YOU tell me what's wrong with that


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You can't be talking seriously, now he has Marvel-Identity-Disorder ? What the fuck ?!

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
He said in a review he was going to change the character at a fundamental level, then he rewrote MK's origin, job, and made his id's the various avengers Now he thinks he's, say, Wolverine and he puts on fake claws and routinely says the word Bub. He's also thought he's Spidey, Cap, and some others.

Yeah... YOU tell me what's wrong with that


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You can't be talking seriously, now he has Marvel-Identity-Disorder ? What the fuck ?!


Dude, go look it up if you don't believe me.

I wish I was joking, hoping, praying! I'd even sacrifie a calf to Baal... but... it's done no good

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
Dude, go look it up if you don't believe me.

I wish I was joking, hoping, praying! I'd even sacrifie a calf to Baal... but... it's done no good


Yeah, I can see a little of why many hate him so much.

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Dude, go look it up if you don't believe me.

I wish I was joking, hoping, praying! I'd even sacrifie a calf to Baal... but... it's done no good


Yeah, I can see a little of why many hate him so much.


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feliciano182 wrote:
Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
He said in a review he was going to change the character at a fundamental level, then he rewrote MK's origin, job, and made his id's the various avengers Now he thinks he's, say, Wolverine and he puts on fake claws and routinely says the word Bub. He's also thought he's Spidey, Cap, and some others.

Yeah... YOU tell me what's wrong with that


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You can't be talking seriously, now he has Marvel-Identity-Disorder ? What the fuck ?!



don't you remember that gutters strip with Moon Knight with loads of the Avenger's stuff? iirc, that was only slightly altered to make it a joke from the original.
http://www.the-gutters.com/comic/97-ryan-lee
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/40 ... super.jpeg

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don't you remember that gutters strip with Moon Knight with loads of the Avenger's stuff? iirc, that was only slightly altered to make it a joke from the original.
http://www.the-gutters.com/comic/97-ryan-lee
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/40 ... super.jpeg


I remember I didn't understand that one.

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feliciano182 wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:
don't you remember that gutters strip with Moon Knight with loads of the Avenger's stuff? iirc, that was only slightly altered to make it a joke from the original.
http://www.the-gutters.com/comic/97-ryan-lee
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/40 ... super.jpeg


I remember I didn't understand that one.


Yeah the point is that now he adopts the personalities of the other avengers as needed

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
Yeah the point is that now he adopts the personalities of the other avengers as needed


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How the fuck does that even work ?!

Moon Knight: Hey buddy ! I'm Spider-Man ! And I will defeat you.

Random Villain: You have absolutely none of his powers.

Moon Knight: ..........................SHADDAP !!!

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feliciano182 wrote:
Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
Yeah the point is that now he adopts the personalities of the other avengers as needed


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How the fuck does that even work ?!

Moon Knight: Hey buddy ! I'm Spider-Man ! And I will defeat you.

Random Villain: You have absolutely none of his powers.

Moon Knight: ..........................SHADDAP !!!


I think he made some webslingers, I know he has fake claws for when he's wolverine, like in an apperance in Daken he was talkin gbaou thow he's ashamed to call Daken his son... and it's just awful

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
I think he made some webslingers, I know he has fake claws for when he's wolverine, like in an apperance in Daken he was talkin gbaou thow he's ashamed to call Daken his son... and it's just awful


You know, usually I reserve my thoughts on Bendis because I don't think I've read anything by him in recent years, as an outsider I can see that the man absolutely loves The Avengers, and has brought them to a whole other level on Marvel Comics, if somebody asked me what was the premiere team of Marvel a few years ago, I would've said The X-Men, not anymore I can't.

But this shit with Moon Knight ? That is just ludicrous.

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feliciano182 wrote:
You know, usually I reserve my thoughts on Bendis because I don't think I've read anything by him in recent years, as an outsider I can see that the man absolutely loves The Avengers, and has brought them to a whole other level on Marvel Comics, if somebody asked me what was the premiere team of Marvel a few years ago, I would've said The X-Men, not anymore I can't.

But this shit with Moon Knight ? That is just ludicrous.


Now how do you think I feel as a pretty big moon knight fan?

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*Morticia not included in fight, only included in picture to supply this thread with extra sexiness.

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*Morticia not included in fight, only included in picture to supply this thread with extra sexiness.


That may be the greatest picture of Morticia I've ever seen.

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Could it be possible to give this topic another chance :o ?

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