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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:07 am 
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An okay episode. I still feel like this show gets progressively worse after each episode.

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~The cold intro at the school was semi useless, we get it... Shane and Lori have history, but if all we're going to get is back story with no forward progress, this series won't become like a Mad Men or Breaking Bad


Yeah, it was kind of unnecessary.

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~Along the same lines as the above, most of the episode was just horizontal plot, with nothing going forward... that'd be okay if that wasn't what most of the episodes have been


I kind of agree. In a review of the episode from Entertainment Weekly, they said:

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I'm certainly not averse to shows that are willing to leisurely take their time letting storylines build. "Slow" is usually considered a negative epithet among TV viewers, but some of the best television shows of the last ten years were "slow," at least by comparison to your average fast-paced network drama. I'm thinking especially of the carefully-constructed later seasons of The Sopranos, or the tangent-happy Deadwood, or Mad Men, or -- most recently -- the fourth season of Breaking Bad, which began with a run of quietly atmospheric hours which slowly set up the thermonuclear closing episodes. "Slow" is not, by nature, bad. But telling a slow-moving storyline puts extra pressure on a TV show. The characters have to be well-defined. The dialogue has to be sharp. Countless little details have to be developed, so that you really feel lost in a show's ambient universe. After eight episodes, it's clear that The Walking Dead wants to be a show with a leisurely pace -- at it's best, the show feels less like a horror movie than like a bloody Sam Peckinpah western


I find that the dialog isn't particularly engrossing. The difference with this show and those previously mentioned is that this is an action show that involves zombies and a post apocalyptic world. And at the moment, everything is very tense. There's really not much for these characters to talk about other than zombies and survival. You can't place any intricate plot lines because the show doesn't really allow for it. For the past eight episodes these characters have been pushed into one scenario or another by zombies. And unless another group of people pop up to act as antagonists, there's really not much else for them to do other than react to whatever happens to them.

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~T-Dawg is a useless replacement for Tyrese. In the comics, Tyrese was awesome, and m favorite character... T-Dawg... well... he's got the depth of a puddle.


Is T- Dawg (not Dog?) meant to be his replacement? If he is, I think you need to try harder to separate this series from the comics if you want to enjoy it.

I will say this, that new horse riding chick is kind of hot.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:55 pm 
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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
~T-Dawg is a useless replacement for Tyrese. In the comics, Tyrese was awesome, and m favorite character... T-Dawg... well... he's got the depth of a puddle.


Is T- Dawg (not Dog?) meant to be his replacement? If he is, I think you need to try harder to separate this series from the comics if you want to enjoy it.


This is just an assumption here, I think they wanted to make sure they had some diversity in the survivors and didn't want to wait to introduce Tyrese, I don't know if he's a replacement, but so far it feels like he could be... and I don't like that at all. Also, the spelling was just based on the street vernacular "dawg" because i figured with how one dimensional they are writing him they would do something like that.

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I will say this, that new horse riding chick is kind of hot.


Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that maggie?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:49 pm 
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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
most of the episode was just horizontal plot, with nothing going forward...


This is probably what I hated the most on this episode. I liked the doctor, though, and the horse rider chick is hot indeed.

The cliffhangers are the only thing that keep me waiting for the next episode (I guess they're doing their job).

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I will say this, that new horse riding chick is kind of hot.


Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that maggie?



Yes. Yes it is.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:23 pm 
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I haven't finished the episode yet...

...But I swear...

if I ever hear the "I'm a veterinarian" line again in a movie or TV show again, I will go on berserk blood rage and kill everyone in my neighborhood.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:19 am 
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if I ever hear the "I'm a veterinarian" line again in a movie or TV show again, I will go on berserk blood rage and kill everyone in my neighborhood.


... :shock: of all the lines to get angry over... you pick THAT one?

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if I ever hear the "I'm a veterinarian" line again in a movie or TV show again, I will go on berserk blood rage and kill everyone in my neighborhood.


... :shock: of all the lines to get angry over... you pick THAT one?


vegetarians are pretty annoying on the best of days, but post apocalypse, if someone says they are a vegetarian, I think we have full permission to strangle them to death for dinner.

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if I ever hear the "I'm a veterinarian" line again in a movie or TV show again, I will go on berserk blood rage and kill everyone in my neighborhood.


... :shock: of all the lines to get angry over... you pick THAT one?


vegetarians are pretty annoying on the best of days, but post apocalypse, if someone says they are a vegetarian, I think we have full permission to strangle them to death for dinner.


1) He said Veterinarian as in animal doctor

2) I'm a vegetarian

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I'm a vegetarian


Hahaha I dunno if I'd call it irony, but it's definitely amusing that you're both a grill cook and a republican and happen to be vegetarian.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:00 am 
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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:
Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
feliciano182 wrote:
if I ever hear the "I'm a veterinarian" line again in a movie or TV show again, I will go on berserk blood rage and kill everyone in my neighborhood.


... :shock: of all the lines to get angry over... you pick THAT one?


vegetarians are pretty annoying on the best of days, but post apocalypse, if someone says they are a vegetarian, I think we have full permission to strangle them to death for dinner.


1) He said Veterinarian as in animal doctor

2) I'm a vegetarian



sorry, I misread it as vegetarian and it just made sense, vegetarians and infuriation just go hand in hand. :lol:

and why are you a vegetarian? if it's for physiological reasons such as some sort of intolerance, I'll let it slide.

i'd also let it slide if it was for religious reasons, but i know that's not the case,

if it's because you don't like the taste, then you are not a vegetarian you are just a REALLY fussy eater, not to mention the fact that it's rare any 2 types of meat taste or feel even remotely similar

if it's for moral reasons, why are you a grill cook?

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I'm a vegetarian


Hahaha I dunno if I'd call it irony, but it's definitely amusing that you're both a grill cook and a republican and happen to be vegetarian.


I'm not a republican, I'm a conservative, the republican party has a lot of flaws, I just tend to vote republican because none of the third parties stand a chance and a non-vote is like voting for the person you were going to vote against.

But i'm a bad vegetarian in the fact that I never liked the taste of meat, I'm not like Morrissey and think that animals and humans are equal

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:11 am 
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you know not all meat tastes the same right?

what about fish, you gotta eat fish man!

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I just tend to vote republican because none of the third parties stand a chance and a non-vote is like voting for the person you were going to vote against.


Of course they will never stand a chance if you are among those that keep supporting the hold that both parties have over your government.

Not trying to be preachy, but if I'm not democrat or republican, then I don't vote democrat or republican.

And seriously, was I the only one who got tired of the whole "Not a medic, but a vet" cliché ? Sure there were other bad lines, but I think this show has been giving away signs that the departure of Frank Darabont hurt way more than it should have.

Also, I can't believe some of you didn't know who this beauty was:

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It's quite a noticeable casting choice considering how Maggie (in the comics) is supposed to be a pretty average-looking woman.

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you know not all meat tastes the same right?


Maybe he's tried different meats and doesn't like them? Leave the guy alone, how did we get onto this stupid topic?

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And seriously, was I the only one who got tired of the whole "Not a medic, but a vet" cliché ?


Is it a cliché? I think there's a character in The Stand who was a vet and was acting as the communities doctor. I guess the idea is that if you're in a serious position where you need a doctor but one isn't around, a vet is an obvious step down, yet a vet would at least have some medical experience and could perform some type of surgery. The fact that he's a vet would add to the drama as it makes the situation more desperate.

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Also, I can't believe some of you didn't know who this beauty was:


I still don't know who she is, what else has she been in?

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you know not all meat tastes the same right?


Maybe he's tried different meats and doesn't like them? Leave the guy alone, how did we get onto this stupid topic?


because i misread veterinarian and then Brooklyn told us he was a vegetarian! i was only teasing though, it's not like I hold anything against him because of it, vegetarianism is just something I consistently fail to wrap my head around.

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Is it a cliché? I think there's a character in The Stand who was a vet and was acting as the communities doctor. I guess the idea is that if you're in a serious position where you need a doctor but one isn't around, a vet is an obvious step down, yet a vet would at least have some medical experience and could perform some type of surgery. The fact that he's a vet would add to the drama as it makes the situation more desperate.


You gotta be kidding me...

...You've NEVER seen other shows and movies with this cliché ?

Granted, I can't recall inmediate examples of this, with the exception of a Boston Legal episode, but it's happened before and it's gotten absurdly old to me.

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I still don't know who she is, what else has she been in?


Her name is Lauren Cohan, she played this really smoking hot thief in Supernatural, she's never quite made it as an actress, but she's always somewhere, recently she was in "Chuck" for around 5 or 6 episodes as I heard.

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yeah, Terminator 3 too. it totally is a cliche or a trope.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... tDentistry

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you know not all meat tastes the same right?

what about fish, you gotta eat fish man!


Yeah, I know and I ate meat for like the first 13 years of my life and I never really liked it, and now I don't eat meat, so I am a vegetarian. I never really liked fish either.

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Of course they will never stand a chance if you are among those that keep supporting the hold that both parties have over your government.

Not trying to be preachy, but if I'm not democrat or republican, then I don't vote democrat or republican.


True enough, but I guess what I'm really saying is I don't belong to any party officially

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:
you know not all meat tastes the same right?

what about fish, you gotta eat fish man!


Yeah, I know and I ate meat for like the first 13 years of my life and I never really liked it, and now I don't eat meat, so I am a vegetarian. I never really liked fish either.



I still think that just makes you a fussy eater, there's plenty of things I don't like but I still eat them because I should. Humans are evolved to eat an omnivorous diet, and not eating meat often means you have to eat supplements and stuff to replace the things meat should give you, proportion and iron and stuff, vegetarianism is not a healthy life style, whatever people say to the contrary, as long as you are healthy that's alright, but also tastes change as you get older, it might be worth trying meat again one day, for the sake of your health.

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Alright, after a short ramble/introduction I’ll get back on topic (though from the looks of previous posts that doesn’t seem to matter heh). I’ve been looking at the discussions on here for roughly the last year or so because you cats tend to have really thoughtful conversations in regards to comic book films, and just things in general. I tried registering for the last month or so but after I agreed to the terms it took to me to a blank page and I couldn’t figure out what to do. So I dug up an old-ass account of mine from like ’07, I was a kid back then (now I’m a man) and probably posted childish comments with terrible grammar, in particular the name. It’s an obvious Watchmen reference but one I didn’t realize I fucked up massively until I used it to log in. I tried my best to work with it, morphing it as some sort of political bullshit (use of the word violent and the Rorschach/Obama mash-up in no way reflects my political beliefs), just me trying to justify the silly name.

Anyways, now that that’s done and done back to Walking Dead. To be honest, I really dig the tone of the show and how shit doesn’t happen a whole lot. Maybe I’m just easily amused by the constant tension vamping that is managed to be done with basically dead space. It’s a pacing I admire a lot. That said, I think this week’s episode got things going a bit more, particularly with Shane. Without ruining anything (I don’t know how to hide spoilers, anyone care to tell me the preferable way?) I wanted to say that the um, the development, he’s going through is exciting stuff. The main problem I have with the show it’s lack of central antagonist makes the conflict hard to define and thus relying heavily on smaller problems to push everything forward (kids getting shot or missing, speaking of which how grisly was the shot of the bloody baby carriage? I just didn’t think you could show something like that on TV, it’s a lot more disturbing then it was given credit for). Anyways, with what’s happening with Shane I expect the show to pick up, not that I was bored but it’s about time we get some memento going.

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