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Godziller66
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Fair enough. I thought about mentioning Ted Kord.
But I'm not in the business of sucking up to people.


How is that sucking up to anybody? If DC hadn't stopped Moore Ted Kord would have been in Watchmen (or whatever the title would have been)

Cause, last I remember, apparently you're the only other one here who makes that connection. :mrgreen:

Not sure if trolling...

Incidentally, what this thread boils down to is the OP is either trolling or is completely ignorant to both comics and chronology.

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Godziller66 wrote:
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Fair enough. I thought about mentioning Ted Kord.
But I'm not in the business of sucking up to people.


How is that sucking up to anybody? If DC hadn't stopped Moore Ted Kord would have been in Watchmen (or whatever the title would have been)

Cause, last I remember, apparently you're the only other one here who makes that connection. :mrgreen:

Not sure if trolling...

Incidentally, what this thread boils down to is the OP is either trolling or is completely ignorant to both comics and chronology.

Which is what I just cannot figure out.

Jmpet, there IS an introduction thread.
somewhere.

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completely ignorant to both comics and chronology.


Says the guy who said Watchmen came out in 1985.




oh snap.

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completely ignorant to both comics and chronology.


Says the guy who said Watchmen came out in 1985.




oh snap.

From the guy who thought Superman debuted in Superman #2

Trollface

oh snap.

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Nite-owl has got to be drunk.
Firstly, pretty much everybody knows that Dan is meant to be Ted Kord, along with the fact that everybody knows that The Comedian is meant to be a cross between Nick Fury, Peacemaker and Groucho Marx.
And that last comment he just left has just left me speechless.
Stop drinking so much, please.

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Folks- I was referring to the screenplay of The Punisher, not the character himself. The dialogue, the treatment of The Punisher in this 2004 movie. It was actually a compliment to Alan Moore to have a character with the drive of Rorscharch... the 2004 movie treatment of The Punisher can easily be translated to Rorscarch sans machine guns naturally.
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Folks- I was referring to the screenplay of The Punisher, not the character himself. The dialogue, the treatment of The Punisher in this 2004 movie. It was actually a compliment to Alan Moore to have a character with the drive of Rorscharch... the 2004 movie treatment of The Punisher can easily be translated to Rorscarch sans machine guns naturally.


Sorry dude, but I'm not buying it. That movie is pretty heavily influenced by Garth Ennis's widely acclaimed Marvel Knights Punisher run, also known as Welcome Back Frank, and it really doesn't seem very Rorschachian to me.
I think though, that they do share a certain attitude, that of the typical "one against the world" anti-hero archetype.

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jmpet wrote:
Folks- I was referring to the screenplay of The Punisher, not the character himself. The dialogue, the treatment of The Punisher in this 2004 movie. It was actually a compliment to Alan Moore to have a character with the drive of Rorscharch... the 2004 movie treatment of The Punisher can easily be translated to Rorscarch sans machine guns naturally.

I'm still am not going to take you seriously until you spell Rorschach right.

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That movie is pretty heavily influenced by Garth Ennis's widely acclaimed Marvel Knights Punisher run, also known as Welcome Back Frank, and it really doesn't seem very Rorschachian to me.
I think though, that they do share a certain attitude, that of the typical "one against the world" anti-hero archetype.


Which is exactly that. An archetype.
Its such a popular archetype, that its impossible to say Rorschach has a coin on it.
If thats their only perceived connection... its a rather tenuous one at best.
Almost every other comic hero ever has been made within the same archetype.
(^ slightly exaggerating. slightly.)

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NiteOwl wrote:
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That movie is pretty heavily influenced by Garth Ennis's widely acclaimed Marvel Knights Punisher run, also known as Welcome Back Frank, and it really doesn't seem very Rorschachian to me.
I think though, that they do share a certain attitude, that of the typical "one against the world" anti-hero archetype.

Which is exactly that. An archetype.
Its such a popular archetype, that its impossible to say Rorschach has a coin on it.
If thats their only perceived connection... its a rather tenuous one at best.
Almost every other comic hero ever has been made within the same archetype.
(^ slightly exaggerating. slightly.)

Not to mention Rorschach was specifically based on that archetype.

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Which is exactly that. An archetype.
Its such a popular archetype, that its impossible to say Rorschach has a coin on it.
If thats their only perceived connection... its a rather tenuous one at best.
Almost every other comic hero ever has been made within the same archetype.
(^ slightly exaggerating. slightly.)


An interesting thought !

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Yeah. Dirty Harry was modeled on Rorschach.


If only you could perceive time as I do...

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Yeah. Dirty Harry was modeled on Rorschach.


If only you could perceive time as I do...


oh, so was Mad Max, there's a blatant homage to Watchmen in that movie!

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AvatarIII wrote:
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Yeah. Dirty Harry was modeled on Rorschach.


If only you could perceive time as I do...


oh, so was Mad Max, there's a blatant homage to Watchmen in that movie!

wait...
there actually IS a scene in Mad Max that distinctly echoes a scene from Watchmen.

But Dirty Harry came out in the 70's...

wha....?

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NiteOwl wrote:
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Yeah. Dirty Harry was modeled on Rorschach.


If only you could perceive time as I do...


oh, so was Mad Max, there's a blatant homage to Watchmen in that movie!

wait...
there actually IS a scene in Mad Max that distinctly echoes a scene from Watchmen.

But Dirty Harry came out in the 70's...

wha....?


If only you could perceive time as we do....

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Oh. Ok. I see.

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NiteOwl wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:
Mister Pain wrote:
Yeah. Dirty Harry was modeled on Rorschach.


If only you could perceive time as I do...


oh, so was Mad Max, there's a blatant homage to Watchmen in that movie!

wait...
there actually IS a scene in Mad Max that distinctly echoes a scene from Watchmen.

But Dirty Harry came out in the 70's...

wha....?

So did Mad Max.

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NiteOwl wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:
Mister Pain wrote:
Yeah. Dirty Harry was modeled on Rorschach.


If only you could perceive time as I do...


oh, so was Mad Max, there's a blatant homage to Watchmen in that movie!

wait...
there actually IS a scene in Mad Max that distinctly echoes a scene from Watchmen.

But Dirty Harry came out in the 70's...

wha....?



You do know that scene from Mad Max (1979) entirely inspired Saw, right? Also, it's got about 6 years on Watchmen (1985/6), if you didn't notice. And yes, Dirty Harry inspired the Rorschach character.

Also, Rorscarch was a real loner.

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WJK wrote:
NiteOwl wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:
Mister Pain wrote:
Yeah. Dirty Harry was modeled on Rorschach.


If only you could perceive time as I do...


oh, so was Mad Max, there's a blatant homage to Watchmen in that movie!

wait...
there actually IS a scene in Mad Max that distinctly echoes a scene from Watchmen.

But Dirty Harry came out in the 70's...

wha....?



You do know that scene from Mad Max (1979) entirely inspired Saw, right? Also, it's got about 6 years on Watchmen (1985/6), if you didn't notice. And yes, Dirty Harry inspired the Rorschach character.

Also, Rorscarch was a real loner.

Why even mention Saw?

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Godziller66 wrote:
WJK wrote:
NiteOwl wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:
Mister Pain wrote:
Yeah. Dirty Harry was modeled on Rorschach.


If only you could perceive time as I do...


oh, so was Mad Max, there's a blatant homage to Watchmen in that movie!

wait...
there actually IS a scene in Mad Max that distinctly echoes a scene from Watchmen.

But Dirty Harry came out in the 70's...

wha....?



You do know that scene from Mad Max (1979) entirely inspired Saw, right? Also, it's got about 6 years on Watchmen (1985/6), if you didn't notice. And yes, Dirty Harry inspired the Rorschach character.

Also, Rorscarch was a real loner.

Why even mention Saw?

Because the first Saw movie is fucking awesome.
And yes I knew that. I specifically recall hearing Leigh Whanell cite that scene at the end of Mad Max as the direct inspiration for the basic idea of what became Saw. Classic stuff.

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