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Hmm A show that makes you root for a small child to die.

Yeah, I think I'll just stick to the comics.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

How good is The Killing ?

Also, you should join us at the Mad Men Thread !

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A few episodes back, I said:





I looked it up, and right now, the kid who plays him is 12. Depending on how many seasons they do, that could become a problem. I'm telling ya, kids age fast.



Most def! You can read my long winded reviews!

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

T3cii, that always makes me think of Walt on lost. They ditched him during season two for the same reason. Dear lord, please make this happen. With my luck they'll do a time jump after season 3 just to keep him on the show. God, just die already. At least I actually liked Walt!

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I've only had one dream in my life with kids in it that didn't involve me gnawing my feet off, and it had to do with kids doing my laundry.

I hate that they never explained his "specialness". Apparently that was just used to introduce the idea of special powers on the show, but it's such a cop out. And when the show actually reached the point where they could have him on it without it being weird, they totally have Locke let him off the hook by not getting him to return to the island.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

It's incredible the amount of things in LOST to which we just said "Bah, who cares about that anyways?"

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I think I'm officially starting my Just Die Already AKA CarlWatch 2012 campaign.


It's funny, I don't remember the last time I wholly disliked every character on a show. The writers on this really are just not good. And yet, I'm only the slightest bit inclined to drop it.

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I've only had one dream in my life with kids in it that didn't involve me gnawing my feet off, and it had to do with kids doing my laundry.

so they finally killed shane

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"Yo Randy, Governor called, you're off the hook"

Nice

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While Shane's death was inevitable, It still came as a bit of a shock when it actually happened. I think Shane was one of the more interesting characters on the show, but it's probably for the best that they finally killed him off. I think his storyline with Rick and Laurie went as far as it could possibly go, and if the show is to move forward it needed to get rid of him. I thought it was a pretty good episode. I think what frustrates fans of the show is that it has the potential to be a good show, but it hasn't achieved that yet. Like, the elements are there. It's well shot, well acted. Hopefully the show has finally found its legs will be much better when it comes back next season.

Having said that, when Carl showed up out of nowhere (again) I said out loud "Oh, that little asshole!". Giving this kid a gun might be a blessing in disguise. The kid is a ninja.

Hard to believe the season is over next week. At least Mad Men is coming back.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!



Finally we can move on and see what is actually a GOOD show.

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With a show populated with people like T-Dog, yeah, he is one of the more interesting characters on the show. Am I wrong? He created tension in a way that zombies can't. He's never quite been all the way bad, or all the way good. He was a character who was usually actually doing something. I don't even know how you could make an honest argument against that.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

He was pathetic, annoying, mis-written mess of a character.

Like the kitchen conversation between Andrea and Lori about choosing to commit suicide, Shane (supposedly) was an attempt at touching upon the pragmatic ideas that emerge when placed in extreme circumstances, it merely left at being an attempt, because Shane could never be taken seriously at any moment he spoke, he was an asshole, a resentful, jealous prick with no human qualities and no sensibilities or personal aspects to which we could relate to.

Because of that, I could never take any of his suggestions as "Okay, he has a legitimate, valid point", but instead "Goddamit, here goes baldy asshole trying to piss off Rick again!", it was annoying, it was the writers trying to out-do Robert Kirkman, and they failed horribly.

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Being pathetic and annoying don't make him a bad character. I wouldn't want to watch a show where everyone has their shit together.

Jealousy and resentment seem like qualities anyone could relate to. Before Rick showed up he was calling the shots. He was playing husband to Laurie, and daddy to Carl. Now Rick comes along and he loses everything, and the group starts to see him as being a pariah. This is what makes him interesting. We actually know something about him. What do we know about Carol? Or T-Dog? Or even Daryl, for that matter?



I've never read the books, and I don't intend to. While flipping through one of them I saw a character nailing another character's dick to the floor. I knew then that it wasn't the type of comic book for me. But this series isn't the comic books. And that might not be such a bad thing. It's funny you should mention Kirkman, as he wrote "Vatos", and that was probably the dumbest episode of the show so far.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

I was actually describing the quality of the Shane's writing, not his personality, which was already fucking irritating by the way.

It's not that I want to see sane people populating my TV shows, it's just that there's a decent way to do this, there's a proper way to have morally ambiguous characters also being interesting characters.

We watch BREAKING FUCKING BAD, we should know !



This is exactly why Kirkman intelligently killed him quickly, because you can only drag something like this for so long, there's a point where the jealousy doesn't do anything for the audience anymore, and that point arrives pretty damn quickly.

What is even more pathetic is that the resolution to Shane's story is almost identical to the comic's, which makes it even worse, the writers of the show dragged Shane's annoying ass for two seasons, and for what ? For the same crap that happened in the book.



I don't remember anyone's dick being nailed to the floor to be honest, it actually surprises me that you mention this, because The Walking Dead isn't that kind of comic AT ALL, still, if anyone remembers this, please remind me. Also, I don't want to be an ass, but don't be a pussy man, it's a fucking comic, everything the show makes wrong, the comic does incredibly well, it's a worthy read.

I don't know why you hated "Vatos" so much, it actually demonstrated how a writer can think of something and not fuck it up when transcribing it on paper, "Vatos" did nothing more than exemplify how the world around them simply turned around completely, and that priorities, roles and social conventions where being thrown out the window, and when that happens, you're left with a world in which black is white and up is down. Yes, it wasn't the best episode, but it sure as shit was better than this entire season.

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Man, I don't remember that either, but I did only read 'til the end of The Governor arc.

Maybe t3cii just has some deep rooted issues he needs to work out. Seeing dicks being nailed to the floor where there aren't any and such.

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Wait....*It might've been where what's her face was torturing The Governor.*

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

CarlWatch 2012 continues another week. Sigh.

This may seem like it's coming from my skewered, liberal, super homosexual point of view, but I had a curious thought: for a show that considers itself to focus so much on the social and human survival in a post apocalyptic world, I found myself wondering... Where are the gays? I mean yeah, in my mind I tend to wonder where the gays are in many tv programs. But I thought on a show in which life is precious there could be interesting social discussions to be had in regard to people not adding to the population. But then again that's probably heavy handed. And they're kinda doing that with (that bitch) Laurie. And I probably just wanna see some gays.

The writers need to stop John Kerrying their characters. One moment hershel is all y'all gotsta go and nowhe says they should have moved in long ago? This wasn't sudden so that isn't my concern, but I don't feel like I understand where this change comes from. Two episodes ago Laurie was putting some siren song shit in Ricks ear about now dangerous shane was. Now she's telling him she's sorry and crying over him. I swear, it's not the character changes that I mind, I just feel like I never understand where they're coming from. There's no character progression, just character change.

Except Andrea is still a bitch.

SPOILER warning for my final comment:




I love that the episode after dale dies t dog has lines. The writers must have jumped for joy at having one less character to write for.

Edit: I am going to have a real talk moment about shane. They ran his character into the ground. They tried so hard to make him the logical antithesis or anti hero to Rick's hero, but the problem is that Rick rarely seems wrong or out of line. Rick is also able to lead while being respectful and never making anyone feel wronged. Herein lies the problem when you try to have a protagonist be an anti hero and not an outright villain. Anyone who challenges professor x is a fucking villain at the end of the day. In theory, shane was or had the potential to be one of the more interesting characters. In practice, he was anything but. Now I do think he served a great purpose on the show as being that opposing voice to Rick, but *spoiler* since we all know they're bringing in a legit straight up villain, there's really no need for shane to exist. Granted, they could have kept him around and given him a legit character arc that saw him hit rock bottom and begin to change (i.e. Buffy's Spike), but that could obviously only happen on a better show with better writers.

I agree, I keep waiting for the show to make me say DAMN! Or OH SHIT! But whenever they kill a character off I'm left absolutely nonplussed. It seems like it's always for shock value and never with purpose.

Sorry for the long post.

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I've only had one dream in my life with kids in it that didn't involve me gnawing my feet off, and it had to do with kids doing my laundry.

So tonight was the season finale.

*Shiiiiiiiit niggaaaaaa


First off, the barn is set on fire. Patricia (Otis' wife) and Jim (Hershel's son-in-law) die. Andrea is left behind (I half wanted to see her die, but she can't because she has to become her comic counterpart), and Lori has gone into some shock because Rick killed Shane, but she pretty much forced it upon him that something needed to be done. Stupid bitch. Anywho, everyone else is now just camping out, until they seem to come to a dead end, and across a river you can see a fence. Rick reveals that Jenner told him everyone is infected, didn't believe it until Shane. As the episode ends, you see an overview of the forest the group is currently hiding in, and the prison not too far.

This was, without a doubt, the best episode of the season, maybe even the series. As usual, Carl was a bitch, Lori was even more of a bitch (I actually enjoyed Carl in this episode), T-Dog finally had some lines, Daryl did jack shit, and Glenn became an Asian.

Michonne.*

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okay what the fuck was with Lori tonight??? She pretty much wanted Shane dead.... and now she's pissed because Rick killed him in self defense? Bleh.

Good episode overall though. And damn that Michonne reveal gave me chills. Weird to see that character finally realized on screen. ALSO DAT JAIL. Can't wait to see where the series goes.

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- Finally, after a season of me complaining, the characters finally get off of the farm.

Can I get an Amen?!

- Very action filled finale, but in future I hope they do a better job fleshing out the supporting roles. When a character dies it's like, "meh", when it should be like "whaaaat?!".

Did I really just type that? If so, I apologize. But my point is that we should care when these characters bite the dust, and did anyone really give a shit when those two characters who did absolutely nothing get taken down?

- Was it me, or were pretty much all the female characters not named Andrea totally useless in this episode?

- Carl is an impatient little shit. They just arrive at the highway and he's like "Let's go back for Mom!". Ugh, kid, could you wait like two seconds?

- Also, found this cover of one of the books with Carl on it. Is this not the creepiest thing you've ever seen in your life?



Who drew that? Why is his head so big? Why does he look so old? Is Carl a little person who has only now stopped growing? Kill it! It must not be allowed to procreate!

- I thought the later half of the episode wasn't that great. I'm not sure I like where they're taking the Rick storyline. He has been the rock of the group, the one solid foundation they could depend on, so seeing him blow up at them kind of puts things in a weird place. With a cast filled with some unlikeable, or frankly useless, characters, having him be a jerk might not be wise.

- Laurie is such a useless bitch. I wonder how it feels for the actress knowing she is almost universally despised amongst Walking Dead fans?

- I thought Randal's friends would have shown up again by season's end. Also thought Merle would have shown up too, and am still holding out for Morgan to rejoin the show. It's odd that these two characters were just sort of dropped from the storyline, especially given how good both of those actors are.

- So, fans of the comic must have been jizzing themselves at the sight of the samurai sword wielding, zombie walking, hooded chick. Devin Faraci made a point about her that I think I agree with in that she's such a fantastical character. She might work in a comic setting, but she has a bit of a manga quality to her that seems like it would be at odds with this shows tone.

- The final shot of the season is of a prison in the distance. It seems like most non fans of the comic didn't know what to make of that place. I think it might have helped the mystery if a search light went on at the end, so that you knew exactly what the place was. And it would have been a creepy image. Just the idea of a functioning jail would be a bit disquieting. But I'm wondering if we're not just switching one location for another. I don't think anyone liked the farm setting, so why would the prison be any better? Will next season be OZ with zombies?

I think it's funny that AMC is selling Mad Men as the show TWD fans should turn to while the show is on hiatus. If fans didn't like a slow TWD season, how would they feel about Mad Men, a show which is usually a slow burn, and doesn't have zombies to give it some action?

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."