t3cii wrote:
Hurm. While it looks cleaner, I don't know that it looks better. Sorry, I know most people don't like unsolicited advice, but I think you only really need to focus on cleaner lines in cases where the person's skin is visibly, such as their face, or arms, etc. Or objects that tend to be smooth, such as guns. In terms of clothing, your loose way of drawing actually gave the coats some texture. I have a feeling that's just your drawing style, that you don't draw finished lines because that's how you sketch, but when you finally ink these drawings, you don't fill in the blanks, which is why your drawings sometimes look a bit unfinished. Like, think of the first volume of Scott Pilgrim and the last. O'Malley's drawing style become smoother, with cleaner lines, and more defined backgrounds. The look of his books became more dynamic. Do you take art lessons, or an art course? I think you might want to look into it if you haven't already. Even though you already have talent as an artist, you might learn new techniques, and you'd have professionals opinions at your disposal.
One last suggestion. In your drawing, while there might be an unseen light source overhead, it looks like the primary light source is coming from the background. So if these two guys have their backs away from it, there should be darker shadows in the front. Maybe add shadows under their throats, and a shadow under Hugo Weaving's (I assume) nose, and depending on where the primary light source is coming from, the side of his face. There should be a shadow on the man holding the gun, on his arm, since that would be blocked from the light. You don't have to go crazy with it, but since you've already added darkness, and smoke, and shadows, I think you should apply that to those characters as well.
You might want to use this photo of Bane as a reference, just to get an idea on how shadows are formed on fabric. The light source appears to be coming from his left side, a bit behind him, so there are heavy shadows in the front:

I appreciate advice like this, but the light source thing was intentional. Or inentional neglect rather.
I know that technically they should be far more shilouetted:

I suppose in the end I sacrific technically sound art for just whatever acheives the look I'm going for.
Actually, I've never taken an art class beyond elementary school and I think I would like to. But I live with an art major (my mom) and I actually get to hear about finer lines and shadowing all the time.
I don't know why, but I have an aversion to shading and shadowing. I feel like if I don't do it right, it can ruin my picture irreparably. And I'd much rather have something light enough to see all the details.
I also have been told that some of the character of my art comes from the sketch-ish. Though that's probably not a great thing, and there is massive room for inprovement.
I do have this saved as a layered project file, so I could go back in and still do even more to it.
I think trying to add texture of sorts, and character to their clothing without wild lines is one thing I'm going to try.
And then just for the heck of it, I'll try out rendering some appropriate shadowing as well.
Thanks for your imput man.
Edit:
and yes lol. that is supposed to look like weaving.