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92% based on 78 reviews: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_cabin_in_the_woods/

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That's a lotta good reviews!!!

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For anyone who'd care to read them, here are my spoiler-included thoughts on the film. Enjoy!

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I remember AYB one time was trying to convince us that Zodiac and Shutter Island were two of the best 5 movies ever made. I agree with you, though, that Se7en is superior.

The Cabin in the Woods (2012) 5.5/10

I went and saw this with some friends tonight, for the first hour or so I really enjoyed this movie, all the references to 80s horror films made me smile... but the ending... the ending took all the wind out of the sails. This movie, I feel, could have been better with an ambiguous ending, not... the end of the world. Beyond that, how selfish was that stoner? He was going to die in 8 minutes either way... why damn the rest of the world because HE feels there are some problem, yes there are problems in the world... but erasing all life on the planet might an extreme solution. I also just think the ending (the monsters running loose) was a tad over done, so much of this movie was the "subtle" horror of a slasher, then the movie had all the subtlety of the Godzilla: Final Wars. This is a weird critique... but there was too much closure. All the workers of the organization were eliminated, the Ancient Ones were let free, it was to clean of an ending.

Whedon and Goddard wanted to write a love letter to 80s horror, instead they had a "do you like me? check yes or no" note passed between kids in class

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
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I remember AYB one time was trying to convince us that Zodiac and Shutter Island were two of the best 5 movies ever made. I agree with you, though, that Se7en is superior.

The Cabin in the Woods (2012) 5.5/10

I went and saw this with some friends tonight, for the first hour or so I really enjoyed this movie, all the references to 80s horror films made me smile... but the ending... the ending took all the wind out of the sails.

Whedon and Goddard wanted to write a love letter to 80s horror, instead they had a "do you like me? check yes or no" note passed between kids in class


I think you're kind of missing the point with the ending. It wasn't selfish so much as an understanding that if Humanity has to go on by way of the blood of innocents, then what's the point of humanity existing? Basically "fuck the needs of the many if the needs of the few have to suffer for it." "Cabin" hammers that point home by showing the occupants of the lab (who are clearly meant to be analogues for the audience) as desensitized individuals that simultaneously are amused/aroused to each brutal killing. Each character tries to justify the proceedings as for the "good of man," but is it really the right thing when sacrificial murders have become just another perversity? I don't think Marty's choice at the end can be relegated to a simple "black and white" choice, and his stance is just as valid as the utilitarianism enforced by Sigourney Weaver's character.

Also, I thought that ending was pretty "mint."


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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
Curiosity Inc. wrote:


I remember AYB one time was trying to convince us that Zodiac and Shutter Island were two of the best 5 movies ever made. I agree with you, though, that Se7en is superior.

The Cabin in the Woods (2012) 5.5/10

I went and saw this with some friends tonight, for the first hour or so I really enjoyed this movie, all the references to 80s horror films made me smile... but the ending... the ending took all the wind out of the sails. This movie, I feel, could have been better with an ambiguous ending, not... the end of the world. Beyond that, how selfish was that stoner? He was going to die in 8 minutes either way... why damn the rest of the world because HE feels there are some problem, yes there are problems in the world... but erasing all life on the planet might an extreme solution. I also just think the ending (the monsters running loose) was a tad over done, so much of this movie was the "subtle" horror of a slasher, then the movie had all the subtlety of the Godzilla: Final Wars. This is a weird critique... but there was too much closure. All the workers of the organization were eliminated, the Ancient Ones were let free, it was to clean of an ending.

Whedon and Goddard wanted to write a love letter to 80s horror, instead they had a "do you like me? check yes or no" note passed between kids in class

You just bad-mouthed Zodiac, Shutter Island, Cabin in the Woods, and Godzilla: Final Wars in a single post.

I'm sorry, but I think I have to kill you now.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:19 am 
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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
Curiosity Inc. wrote:


I remember AYB one time was trying to convince us that Zodiac and Shutter Island were two of the best 5 movies ever made. I agree with you, though, that Se7en is superior.

The Cabin in the Woods (2012) 5.5/10

I went and saw this with some friends tonight, for the first hour or so I really enjoyed this movie, all the references to 80s horror films made me smile... but the ending... the ending took all the wind out of the sails. This movie, I feel, could have been better with an ambiguous ending, not... the end of the world. Beyond that, how selfish was that stoner? He was going to die in 8 minutes either way... why damn the rest of the world because HE feels there are some problem, yes there are problems in the world... but erasing all life on the planet might an extreme solution. I also just think the ending (the monsters running loose) was a tad over done, so much of this movie was the "subtle" horror of a slasher, then the movie had all the subtlety of the Godzilla: Final Wars. This is a weird critique... but there was too much closure. All the workers of the organization were eliminated, the Ancient Ones were let free, it was to clean of an ending.

Whedon and Goddard wanted to write a love letter to 80s horror, instead they had a "do you like me? check yes or no" note passed between kids in class


Thanks for spoiling the shit out of the movie bro. Do you wish me to repay the favor with some Avenger spoilers?


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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
Curiosity Inc. wrote:


I remember AYB one time was trying to convince us that Zodiac and Shutter Island were two of the best 5 movies ever made. I agree with you, though, that Se7en is superior.

The Cabin in the Woods (2012) 5.5/10

I went and saw this with some friends tonight, for the first hour or so I really enjoyed this movie, all the references to 80s horror films made me smile... but the ending... the ending took all the wind out of the sails. This movie, I feel, could have been better with an ambiguous ending, not... the end of the world. Beyond that, how selfish was that stoner? He was going to die in 8 minutes either way... why damn the rest of the world because HE feels there are some problem, yes there are problems in the world... but erasing all life on the planet might an extreme solution. I also just think the ending (the monsters running loose) was a tad over done, so much of this movie was the "subtle" horror of a slasher, then the movie had all the subtlety of the Godzilla: Final Wars. This is a weird critique... but there was too much closure. All the workers of the organization were eliminated, the Ancient Ones were let free, it was to clean of an ending.

Whedon and Goddard wanted to write a love letter to 80s horror, instead they had a "do you like me? check yes or no" note passed between kids in class


Thanks for spoiling the shit out of the movie bro. Do you wish me to repay the favor with some Avenger spoilers?

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Godziller66 wrote:
You just bad-mouthed Zodiac, Shutter Island, Cabin in the Woods, and Godzilla: Final Wars in a single post.

I'm sorry, but I think I have to kill you now.


I didn't bad mouth Zodiac, shutter Island OR godzilla final wars, I just said Zodiac and Shutter island weren't n the top five of all time... and I just said that Godzilla: Final Wars wasn't subtle. The only movie I straight up insulted was Cabin n the Woods.

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I think you're kind of missing the point with the ending. It wasn't selfish so much as an understanding that if Humanity has to go on by way of the blood of innocents, then what's the point of humanity existing? Basically "fuck the needs of the many if the needs of the few have to suffer for it." "Cabin" hammers that point home by showing the occupants of the lab (who are clearly meant to be analogues for the audience) as desensitized individuals that simultaneously are amused/aroused to each brutal killing. Each character tries to justify the proceedings as for the "good of man," but is it really the right thing when sacrificial murders have become just another perversity? I don't think Marty's choice at the end can be relegated to a simple "black and white" choice, and his stance is just as valid as the utilitarianism enforced by Sigourney Weaver's character.

Also, I thought that ending was pretty "mint."


See, I get what you're saying, and I can see why there would be a moral quandry there... so maybe it's just my own world view that roughly 7 billion lives could be argued to be more important than one

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
See, I get what you're saying, and I can see why there would be a moral quandry there... so maybe it's just my own world view that roughly 7 billion lives could be argued to be more important than one

Even if you disliked the last five minutes, which is fair, it deserves far more than a 5.5.

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
See, I get what you're saying, and I can see why there would be a moral quandry there... so maybe it's just my own world view that roughly 7 billion lives could be argued to be more important than one

Even if you disliked the last five minutes, which is fair, it deserves far more than a 5.5.


I disliked more than just the last five minutes, I disliked pretty much everything after Marty was revealed to be alive.

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
Godziller66 wrote:
You just bad-mouthed Zodiac, Shutter Island, Cabin in the Woods, and Godzilla: Final Wars in a single post.

I'm sorry, but I think I have to kill you now.


I didn't bad mouth Zodiac, shutter Island OR godzilla final wars, I just said Zodiac and Shutter island weren't n the top five of all time... and I just said that Godzilla: Final Wars wasn't subtle. The only movie I straight up insulted was Cabin n the Woods.

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I think you're kind of missing the point with the ending. It wasn't selfish so much as an understanding that if Humanity has to go on by way of the blood of innocents, then what's the point of humanity existing? Basically "fuck the needs of the many if the needs of the few have to suffer for it." "Cabin" hammers that point home by showing the occupants of the lab (who are clearly meant to be analogues for the audience) as desensitized individuals that simultaneously are amused/aroused to each brutal killing. Each character tries to justify the proceedings as for the "good of man," but is it really the right thing when sacrificial murders have become just another perversity? I don't think Marty's choice at the end can be relegated to a simple "black and white" choice, and his stance is just as valid as the utilitarianism enforced by Sigourney Weaver's character.

Also, I thought that ending was pretty "mint."


See, I get what you're saying, and I can see why there would be a moral quandry there... so maybe it's just my own world view that roughly 7 billion lives could be argued to be more important than one



Something tells me you didn't understand the commentary...

The "Ancient Ones" are us, the audience. The annual ritual (killing the five stereotypical teenagers) is what appeases us, because that's how every horror movie has pretty much been since Halloween came out. If it doesn't happen, everyone gets upset. Also, the employees represent Hollywood, the two main guys being Whedon and Goddard themselves. The whole "give someone else a chance" is saying that horror movies should continue to be original, and not just typical cliche slasher/torture porn annual copycats.

In a nutshell.

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Something tells me you didn't understand the commentary...


You sir don't know what you've just gotten into :lol:

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I feel like this should get moved to the cabin thread to spare those who haven't seen it.

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I feel like this should get moved to the cabin thread to spare those who haven't seen it.


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I feel like this should get moved to the cabin thread to spare those who haven't seen it.


Fucking ay. :evil:
It doesn't come out in Australia for months and I'd like SOME mystery to remain before I see it ...

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xMaliciousMal wrote:
I feel like this should get moved to the cabin thread to spare those who haven't seen it.

A fine idea. Consider it done.

As for Dr. Brooklyn, I'd highly advise him to read my second review of the film. Possibly both of them.

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See, I get what you're saying, and I can see why there would be a moral quandry there... so maybe it's just my own world view that roughly 7 billion lives could be argued to be more important than one

Even if you disliked the last five minutes, which is fair, it deserves far more than a 5.5.


I disliked more than just the last five minutes, I disliked pretty much everything after Marty was revealed to be alive.

You disliked the System Purge sequence?

*horrified look of disgust*

You're the fucking devil, my friend.

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Godziller66 wrote:
You disliked the System Purge sequence?

*horrified look of disgust*

You're the fucking devil, my friend.


I thought it was a little much. This is all just my opinion though.

WJK wrote:

Something tells me you didn't understand the commentary...


I forgot the unwritten rule of WCM: If Brooklyn doesn't like something, it's just because he didn't understand it. :roll:

WJK wrote:
The "Ancient Ones" are us, the audience. The annual ritual (killing the five stereotypical teenagers) is what appeases us, because that's how every horror movie has pretty much been since Halloween came out. If it doesn't happen, everyone gets upset. Also, the employees represent Hollywood, the two main guys being Whedon and Goddard themselves. The whole "give someone else a chance" is saying that horror movies should continue to be original, and not just typical cliche slasher/torture porn annual copycats.

In a nutshell.


Yes. I know. I just felt it could have been handled better.

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Dr. Brooklyn wrote:
WJK wrote:
The "Ancient Ones" are us, the audience. The annual ritual (killing the five stereotypical teenagers) is what appeases us, because that's how every horror movie has pretty much been since Halloween came out. If it doesn't happen, everyone gets upset. Also, the employees represent Hollywood, the two main guys being Whedon and Goddard themselves. The whole "give someone else a chance" is saying that horror movies should continue to be original, and not just typical cliche slasher/torture porn annual copycats.

In a nutshell.


Yes. I know. I just felt it could have been handled better.

How so?

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How so?


Like I said, more ambiguity, I felt the ending had too much closure. I liked the mystery of the first few acts of the movie, but the end was too clean (ironically enough).

In addition to that, I felt like actually having the world destroyed was a bad move, and the theme of wiping the 'horror genre slate' clean for the next wave contrdicted the angle that Whedon and Goddard aimed for (mainly being a return to the old stuff and leaving torture porn behind). They are both giving a love letter to old slashers... while saying it's time to move on? That's like a guy hung up on his ex while knowing he needs to move on, yet he spends his time flirting with his ex. The larger messages are fairly obvious, that to appease us there is the ritualistice slasher sacrifice...

Admittedly, I am a bad person for this, but I felt that if you've seen a fair amount of horror movies the movie seemed (at times) more like a rerun than an homage. The kills were all predictable; the nods to Evil Dead and Friday the 13th were cool, but at the same time they were as obvious as the nose on Sarah Jessica Parker's face. the suspense was taken away because Whedon and goddard ahve obviously seen a ton of slasher/horror movies... and it came through too much.

Also, the sigourney Weaver cameo should have been replaced. (This is a super nit-pick) but I felt a slasher/horror icon would have been a better cameo (for the record this didn't factor into my low score, just a nit-pick). I don't know if they tried, but some one like Jamie Lee-Curtis, Bruce Campbell, or Robert Englund would have been a vastly superior pick. Even kevin Bacon for his tie to Friday the 13th part 1 would have been better, in my opinion.

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