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In Feli's defense... wait, did I really just type those words? Anyways, in Feli's defense you have been making a lot of (to some people) "excuses" to avoid asking this girl out. In a way it almost seems like you don't want to ask her out, because you're not entirely over Jester, I'm not saying that's true... but it could easily be construed that way.

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It's actually true, even though it shouldn't be.

Jester = A fucking dead-end.

Is it hard ? Yes, but nothing in life is easy.

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I think we've all been there, a girl/guy breaks our heart but we don't want to move on too quickly just holding on hope.... I know I've been there... and Zller, it hurts me to do this butyou need some tough love.... Jester isn't coming back, she never will. You can spend the rest of your life looking over your shoulder hoping you'll see her running after you, but it's never going to happen she's gone and fromt he way she dumped you good riddance to her. I'm not saying just try and bed some random chicks, what I am saying, though, is that you deserve much better than thinking the best thing in your life has come and gone.

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I don't know if that's true or not, but maybe that's part of it. I might have some sort of hesitancy to try to build another relationship from scratch after my last one.

Or maybe I just don't want to waste time on a girl I'm not really sure about, who also has the same name as my previous girlfriend.

Or maybe I just can't find a way to ask her out because she's always in a group. I dunno.


I'm aware of that. You guys don't need to tell me she's never coming back. Even if she ever wanted to, she has too much pride.

But yeah, just the way she treated me near the end of our friendship, it's pretty clear she doesn't particularly care about me anymore. I don't really need that beaten into my head.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

Two things are certain

a) the longer you leave it, the more chance you have to bring friend zoned or similar.

And

b) she's not going to be single forever.

Both things point to it bring best to do it quickly or not at all.

Another idea however would be to tell your mutual friends you like her and they might be able to help to get you alone together.

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Red Tape

There's nothing to be sure about, is she hot ? Do you like her ? Are you available ? Is she available ? Yes to all ? Simple.

She's in a group ? Perfect concern, but that doesn't mean you're cock-blocked for good, it just means you have to find ways to approach her.

Follow Avatar's advice as well, don't let things linger too long as well, you'll get friend-zoned.



We do.

'Ziller, get over Sierra, she treated you like crap, and you didn't do anything to deserve it, leave her in the past.

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I just love how you think you know me better than I do and then give unnecessary advice.

It's really endearing.

Maybe I miss Sierra occasionally, but that doesn't mean I ever expect to talk to her again, let alone get back together.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

Then don't say she is an obstacle in hitting New Sierra

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Well, guys, update time.
Remember a while ago...
I talked about feeling threatened by this "Ed" guy.
Well, I noticed a pattern.
And its repeating itself.
And its not all my fault.

Ms.Sundance lets me get insanely close when she doesn't have her eye on anybody,
but then when she does, I get the third degree.
So I confronted her about all of it last night. ALL of it. Everything.
And she was just really honest and up front and even though nothing really got resolved (i.e. me still firmly in the friendzone) I feel like I broke a little ground. She brought up a few valid reasons why she currently can't see me as a significant other. And its stuff I can change and improve about myself, but she told me that it still may not change anything. So I'm just... I mean. The dude she's into now, waited eleven years for her. And waited through a whole engagement she had to another guy. I guess I'll just have to be that patient. Copping out now doesn't prove shit.
And even though I was pretty explosive and kinda aggressive about everything, in confronting her,
we were back to playing and rolling around and all the usual stuff.
Its impossible for me to stay mad with her.
Its also impossible for me to walk away.

This can't be healthy in the slightest.

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It really REALLY pains me to say it, but Feli is making a lot of sense.

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The name thing's just weird is all.

I kind of want to date a girl with a completely different name. Like Rebecca or something. Oh well.





Get out of here, you unholy duo of woman advice.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

We're just trying to help, I don't know about Feli but i have been fucked over by women too so I know the pain your going through, I might not know the ins and outs of the situation, but the resulting feelings are pretty universal.

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I appreciate it, but it's just a weird situation.

I'd like to talk to her a little more and get to know her better before asking her out on a date, but there's only one week of school left.

And she used to get there early like me, so it'd just be the two of us sitting around, but recently she's been showing up later, so there have always been people around.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

Skeptical cat has the right to be skeptical.
But I'm truth telling bro.

I have some peace of mind today.
As my stomach isn't in knots and I'm not a jealous wreck.
Talking shit out with her, even without some big hopeful turnaround in the end, still helps.

I feel better.
But still... I'm a complete non-sexual entity in her eyes.
Like a brother. Or a lamp.

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I'll be right back. I gotta go see a man about a mule.

Lamps are very sexual. You just haven't been using them right.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

...You mean she hasn't been using them right.

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Ugh random thoughts:

People laughed when I said if he'd dated someone with a more common name he'd have to get over it, and now look where we are.

Ziller, I don't want to defend Feliciano del Toro, but I did notice that you'll say one thing is the reason, then when he counters that you find another reason.

You want to get to know her before you ask her on a date. I don't understand why you guys (or just you) seem so fucking unable to understand that asking someone on a date does not mean asking her to continue dating until you pursue a relationship and hopefully marriage. Literally it is asking her if you can get to know her better. If you want to get to know her better, you ask her on a date. Seriously, *this is how it works.* point blank period. End of fucking story. I don't know what anyone else has to say. You're either ready to ask a cute girl if you two can get to know each other better or you're not. If not, that's fine, but realize at a certain point you're going to have to be soon. Either that or be willing to just get some pussy before you settle down. But either way you're going to have to put yourself back out there with women.

Also, niteowl, I hate to be a dick. But I'm pretty sure the third degree refers to a challenging line of questioning.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

At a certain point you are going to have to either start dating for a relationship or go the "single guy/bachelor" route and start just getting laid. But either way you'll need to put yourself out there and involve yourself with the ladies again. At some point.

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I've only had one dream in my life with kids in it that didn't involve me gnawing my feet off, and it had to do with kids doing my laundry.

Well, I'm not going to ask her out in front of a group of people. I feel like a broken record here, I just don't have the social leeway necessary for the situation.

But anyway, I feel like we should stop talking about it because all it amounts to is people berating me. I think I'm pretty much going to stop posting in this thread, whether I ask her out or not.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."