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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:47 pm 
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New international trailer. I liked the first one better, it had a better energy to it, but this one is stil pretty cool and leads me to believe the film will be awesome.
http://collider.com/django-unchained-trailer-teaser/172744/


I like this trailer better, and I think this is the trailer we should have first got.


I figured you would. Though I think the first trailer is certainly more....fun.


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New international trailer. I liked the first one better, it had a better energy to it, but this one is stil pretty cool and leads me to believe the film will be awesome.
http://collider.com/django-unchained-trailer-teaser/172744/


I like this trailer better, and I think this is the trailer we should have first got.


Though I think the first trailer is certainly more....fun.


Eh...maybe. But this one gives us more clips, and not as comedic a shift in tone.

And this:

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Also, why are so few forum members here talking about this? A new Tarantino movie, I'm surprised by the lack of interest.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:46 pm 
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Also, why are so few forum members here talking about this? A new Tarantino movie, I'm surprised by the lack of interest.


Good question, I myself would've thought a western by Tarantino would be enough to get my attention, but so far I've been thinking I'd rather see it before making any hasty judgements, I can't say it's gotten me as excited as I was for Kill Bill Vol. 2 and Inglorious Basterds, hell, even Grindhouse, while dissapointing, had me going.

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Also, why are so few forum members here talking about this? A new Tarantino movie, I'm surprised by the lack of interest.

There isn't much to say, except "My ticket is sold!"

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Also, why are so few forum members here talking about this? A new Tarantino movie, I'm surprised by the lack of interest.

There isn't much to say, except "My ticket is sold!"

Isn't much else to say, except "Ditto!"

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:59 am 
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Yeah, I just cant wait to see it myself. I'm sure there'll be plenty to talk about once it comes out.
Anyway, a Collider interview where Will Smith talks a bit about why he didn't do "Django Unchained"
http://collider.com/will-smith-i-am-leg ... ed/172976/

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Yeah, I just cant wait to see it myself. I'm sure there'll be plenty to talk about once it comes out.
Anyway, a Collider interview where Will Smith talks a bit about why he didn't do "Django Unchained"
http://collider.com/will-smith-i-am-leg ... ed/172976/



wait... was it because he'd rather work with Shyamalan than Tarantino?

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Yeah, I just cant wait to see it myself. I'm sure there'll be plenty to talk about once it comes out.
Anyway, a Collider interview where Will Smith talks a bit about why he didn't do "Django Unchained"
http://collider.com/will-smith-i-am-leg ... ed/172976/


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and I just couldn’t sit with him and get through the issues,


Issues with the script? I have a feeling his biggest issue with it is his character is overshadowed by at least three other characters.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:24 am 
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Yeah, I just cant wait to see it myself. I'm sure there'll be plenty to talk about once it comes out.
Anyway, a Collider interview where Will Smith talks a bit about why he didn't do "Django Unchained"
http://collider.com/will-smith-i-am-leg ... ed/172976/


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and I just couldn’t sit with him and get through the issues,


Issues with the script? I have a feeling his biggest issue with it is his character is overshadowed by at least three other characters.


maybe he meant issues with shooting schedules and stuff.

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http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/DjangoUnchainedFoxxpromoimage.jpg


Django.........with a revolver !

Am I missing something here ?

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http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/DjangoUnchainedFoxxpromoimage.jpg


Django.........with a revolver !

Am I missing something here ?



it's a new image. as far as I know.

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and I just couldn’t sit with him and get through the issues,


Issues with the script? I have a feeling his biggest issue with it is his character is overshadowed by at least three other characters.


I do know Tarantino has taken flack from many african american film makers and actors for his use of the n-word routinely and other things that Tarantino does out of affinity for African American culture, and that could be the "issues" they couldn't get through.

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New trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8CZKbDzP1E

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well i knew i wanted to see it, but now i want to see it even more

also, jonah hill

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Bump.

Sorry it took me so long to post my thoughts about this one, it somehow slipped my mind. Anyway, what do you all think of the film?

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Bump.

Sorry it took me so long to post my thoughts about this one, it somehow slipped my mind. Anyway, what do you all think of the film?

I'm really looking forward to seeing it, but a friend of mine who I'm seeing it with is rarely available.

Damn him.

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SPOILERS

As I mentioned on facebook, while I haven't seen the movie yet, I have read the script. I understand some of it is changed, but I believe most of it is intact. There was a point you brought up that I strongly disagreed with from my reading of the script. You said

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Take Calvin Candie, for example. I found this character utterly fascinating because even though he’s technically the villain, he isn’t necessarily a bad guy. Sure, he’s a spoiled and greedy popinjay, but that doesn’t exactly make him evil. It’s true that he’s a total racist and slaves are murdered by his command, but he’s one of the few characters who’s merely apathetic — as opposed to sadistic — about the fact. The man is a true Southern gentleman, and he’d gladly hold his racist tongue if honor or business compelled him to do so.

Most importantly, Candie is never technically in the wrong at any point in this movie. Going strictly by standards of the time, none of his actions are remotely illegal or immoral.


While I agree that Candie is a man of his time, meaning it's hard to judge him from the era he lived, he is still a sadistic man. He forces his slaves to engage in brutal fights in which they are killed. He has one of his men casually dispose of any slaves he has purchased that don't meet his standards. When one of his slaves tries to escaped, he sicks his dogs on him, and they tear the man to pieces. In a scene which I think may have been cut from the movie, he first acquires Broomhilda through a poker game. When the young man accuses him of cheating, Candie challenges him to a duel. He has a piano player play a series of notes to act as a countdown, clearly relishing the moment. He has also raped and beaten Broomhilda. My point is, yes, you could argue that he was simply no worse that the other plantation owners were at that time, and many whites, but we also have Schultz, a white man who is living in the exact same era, but who has genuine empathy for Django, and the slaves on Candie's plantation. Through Candie's actions, we see he is sadistic, and his actions are immoral. His slaves exist purely for his own sick entertainment.

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Still, out of all these truly despicable characters, I think the worst of them went to Samuel L. Jackson. He plays Stephen, an old slave who’s been serving the Candie clan for all of his 75 years. Stephen is the worst kind of slave in that he knows he’s a slave and proud of the fact. The guy is so smart and so perfectly situated that he might easily kill Candie in his sleep and set all the slaves free, yet he would defend the Candyland plantation to his dying breath. Stephen isn’t just dependent on the system, he’s actively trying to preserve it. Stephen isn’t just a product of his time, because that would imply that he’s grown apathetic or tolerant of cruelty toward his people. No, Stephen actually seems to enjoy watching his own people get tortured and killed.


This is another point I have been seeing in reviews for the movie. I think it's interesting that in a movie filled with loathsome white people, it is the black character, the only other black character with a significant amount of screen time, that people consider to be the villain. I actually have sympathy for Stephen. While it is never stated outright how long he has been on the plantation, I suspect it has been since childhood, that he has worked for the Candies in some capacity his whole life. To him, he is one of the family. All of his feelings on blacks and being black would have come from the mouth of Calvin's father, and those that surrounded him. And because they would see blacks as being inferior, so would he. Yet because of the position he was in, he would see himself as being superior to other blacks. All that changes when Django shows up on Candies plantation. In the script, Tarantino specifically mentions the shock other slaves feel when they see Django on a horse. It upsets Stephen's whole world view, seeing this black man riding a horse, acting as if he is better than him. Because he isn't just a product of his time, he's a product of the Candies. If he has been on that plantation for as long as I think he has been, is it any wonder he is filled with such a hatred? It's all he knows.

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In a scene which I think may have been cut from the movie, he first acquires Broomhilda through a poker game. When the young man accuses him of cheating, Candie challenges him to a duel. He has a piano player play a series of notes to act as a countdown, clearly relishing the moment. He has also raped and beaten Broomhilda.

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...Yeah, that was definitely not in the movie.

I don't think it would be accurate to say that Candie uses his slaves solely for entertainment. I think it would be more accurate to say that he uses his slaves solely for business. It's all about making money from them, and the Mandingo fights are regrettably a part of that. Though he certainly gets a kick out of the Mandingo fights, I have a hunch that his interest would disappear mighty quick if he couldn't make a buck from it.

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This is another point I have been seeing in reviews for the movie. I think it's interesting that in a movie filled with loathsome white people, it is the black character, the only other black character with a significant amount of screen time, that people consider to be the villain.

It's all in how Jackson plays his role, my friend.

Your comments with regards to the script are fascinating, but it's clearly like we're talking about two different movies. Seriously, go see the film for yourself and get back to us. I'm already waiting with bated breath for your script-to-screen remarks.

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...Yeah, that was definitely not in the movie.


If I recall correctly, Jonah Hill was initially rumored to play Scotty, a young man whose mother buys Broomhilda at an auction. Then Sasha Baron Cohen was supposed to step in, but there was a conflict with his schedule. But basically, this character bought Broomhilda, and we'd get to see their mostly innocent relationship. Eventually Scotty takes her to Calvin's club, where after Broomhilda leaves the table to head to their room, Scotty notices one of Calvin's girls, and the two bet their women over a poker game. It's a shame it was cut, as it would have been a great cinematic moment with Candie's piano player playing different notes to the count of three. As for his treatment of Broomhilda, I think most of it may have only been alluded to, I honestly forget.

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Your comments with regards to the script are fascinating, but it's clearly like we're talking about two different movies. Seriously, go see the film for yourself and get back to me. I'm already waiting with bated breath for your script-to-screen remarks.


Hopefully I'll get around to seeing it, but there's also the Hobbit which I'm supposed to be seeing, and Zero Dark Thirty. I don't think too many of my friends are even big on Tarantino, so I may not see it until after its release.

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