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Hey DDC...
In the Manhattan origin story, does it have the moment where he is describing the TIME magazine cover with the watch with its "hands frozen" (cut to shot of Janey handing him the beer)? That's one of my favorite moments in the book.

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No time magazine, but it had the shot of Janey handing him a beer when their fingers touched, though.

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Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music - George Carlin

With this level of detail being discussed, I feel compelled to step away from following Watchmen THIS closely...

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No, Mike! No!

Thank you very much for answering my nitpicky queries.

That chapter was my absolute favorite of the book, and I have to admit, I'm going to be disappointed if they cut out a lot of the "time experience" aspect of Dr. Manhattan. And, IF I'm going to be disappointed, I'd like to know in advance so I can get used to the idea and enjoy the film on it's own merit.

I'm gathering from what you're saying that it's about half and half, they kept the "time experienced simultaneously" in to some degree, but not nearly as 'explicit' as it was in the book. Correct?

What i noticed about flashback scenes is that Zack likes to get those scene early in the movie. I seemed to remember that in 300, the scene where Leonidis was being trained to be a spartan, the movie version shows that part first whereas in the GN, it was shown as a flashback.

From what DD saw and describe, Zack did that again with Watchmen.

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Mike, don't do it man, it's not worth it, think of the CHILDREN!

Alright, DDC, I have a question...
What do you think about Manhattan video Taping the mon landing?

When I read your article pretty much everything else had me geekgasming, then I read that I kind of just went "oh, that's... cool?" I can't picture manhattan doing this, it just seems so out of place for the character, to me at least. How did it look? Was it awkward at all or is it a neat shot?

and thanks in advance for answering

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What I tend to do with such scenes that have been cut/reduced is keep in mind that there is a special edition director's cut DVD planned which will no doubt have deleted/extended scenes spliced back in where they should be - and that's without the Black Freighter footage

Have some faith - what you see in the cinema isn't everything you'll eventually see on the DVD!

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"Because there is good and there is evil, and evil must be punished. Even in the face of Armageddon I shall not compromise in this."

The movie is designed for general audiences, but that DVD is for us - no doubt.

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Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music - George Carlin

Pretty much the same way the Absolute Edition of Watchmen is for us too!

And all being well with the film, I'll be converting to blu-ray.
This is the first film that has given me reason to actually want to get a blu-ray DVD player.

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Bluray looks fucking amazing, but don't get it. My dad's personally talked to a Sony Marketing Representative who said they can't find a way to make Bluray cheaper. Get a digital HD version instead, you'll thank me later.

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"— Adrian Veidt (a.k.a. Ozymandias) hanging out in front of New York City’s famous Studio 54 with the Village People and David Bowie."


I'm a little disappointed they would take Rorschach's funny offhand remark seriously that Veidt might be gay. By associating him with a well known gay music band and a bisexual musician, I think it's pretty clear what the movie is implying in a quick montage. I took that comment by Rorschach in the graphic novel as a bit of insight into his worldview/philosophy after his encounter with Veidt, who is his near foil. It shows how Rorschach would go out of his way to put, in his mind, a personal negative association with someone he dislikes. That and the fact he bases this question from observations made about Veidt's living conditions/style, showing what a shallow inference this is making it that much more humorous. In the graphic novel it sort of comes out of left field and tells you more about Rorschach then Veidt - (Rorschach taking notes about Veidt, then suddenly - "possibly homosexual?"). To me it's a comic moment not meant to be taken seriously, and considering the negative associations Synder has been accused of creating with homosexuals in "300", I find the presence of implying Veidt is gay a little disturbing. Veidt obviously does something horrible in the comic, and is as close to the comic's "supervillain" as possible. Synder has also been quoted as calling Veidt the "bad guy" (". . . and the bad guy wants world peace" quote). Of course, one could argue the Silhouette as a lesbian is present in the montage too, but this is based on fact in the graphic novel, and to me could act as a way to "soften" the strong implication with Veidt, that is not an act of character assassination. I'm beginning to wonder if this was put in intentionally by Synder as a way to poke fun at Veidt's character in a particularly mean spirited and juvenile way, or if they will continue with this idea throughout the film to make it an actually insightful addition to the reality of the film.

Either way, I still contend Rorschach's comment was meant for laughs and to show his mental state, not to be taken seriously.

Also, I don't take the reference to Night Owl's impotence, either as to his spirit or erectile dysfunction, as a measure of someone's low participation on these boards as humorous by placing it under their profile. If encouraging the # of posts is the intention, might as well make it a friendly atmosphere. Not that I don't appreciate the site or feel welcome, but just a suggestion.

In the shot he's standing out in the street facing away from the Village People who are near the entrance. He turns to go inside the club and Bowie calls his over for a quick handshake. So he's not cavorting with anyone in this scene. There were lots of hip, not gay, people who frequented that club, so, I wouldn't worry about it.


Under 10 posts carries the "so impotent" moniker. It's to encourage lurkers to post. If you still don't like it after that explanation, please feel free to discuss it with Broken Finger or Kingmob. I can assure you will give the issue the attention it deserves.

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As for Veidt outside studio 54, I didn't think of it as a hint of him being gay, I took it more of showing how he had become/was a cutural icon much like Studio 54, Villiage People etc, or at the very least he has become a celebrity in Watchmen's world.

I think Hollis's second post was very smart and thoughtful, and I can only hope that it's indicative of what's to come.

Hollis, please further favor us with your insight, and you'll be out of the "So Impotent" range before you know it. I will say that the moniker you've taken umbrage to was chosen by our most gracious host Doomsday Clock, and he is known to have a...peculiar sense of humor. Some might call it "tasteless." Others, "offensive." Still others might call it "shit."

After a while, you get used to it, and a little while later you're not sure how you ever got along without it.

Besides, he's an almost direct conduit into what's happening with the movie version of Watchmen, if you're into that sort of thing, and as such is an invaluable source of information.



I think Hollis's one line here sums up all concerns about the movie quite nicely. From Rorschach's martial arts dynamo of an attack against superior forces to the Comedian's tea drinking, most of us are concerned about how this thing will be presentd to the public. Hopefully, until March comes around, we can have more comments from folks like Hollis, and less from vermin like the Brass Moustache and Fruityfallout.

IMHO, or whatever little acronym we're supposed to use now to soften our opinion amd make it more palatable.

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You see the kind of shit your golden boy Zack is missing?

He said the song 99 Luftballons was in the movie. What better time to play it than then? I'm content with waiting to see what happens in the movie. If I dislike it I still have the graphic novel to appreciate on it's own.

Question, DDC:

When you say "David Bowie", do you quite literally mean David Bowie, or an actor who looks like David Bowie?