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Didn't either the Under The Hood text or the role-playing game sourcebook mention that Hooded Justice (or Rolf Mueller, as he is suspected of being) would come back crying from some rendezvous and begin branding himself with a red-hot iron?

Considering the complexities of the novel and it's characters, I couldn't help but wonder if HJ's twisted violence was actual an attempt to compensate for his homosexuality (and possible an interacial homosexuality - suppose his first victims were people he was intimate with, and self-loath drove to violence?)

I also look at the scene where he stops the attack on Sally Jupiter as interesting - suppose she was the kind of woman who had many intimate friendships with gay men, and what we saw in their interaction was a complete disconnect between what Sally wanted (a touch of comfort) and what HJ was willing to give (a shoulder to lean on, but nothing more)?

Are you saying that he's got something going on with Bubastis? Yipes!

(And a bold new frontier in comics slash-fic is born...)

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I think she's implying that with out sexual urges, Veidt becomes less than human (or more than depending on how you view it). What UCONNgirl means, I think, is that with all the other characters having so much sexual imagery around them (even rorschach) Veidt is different, and is that another clue that he views himself as above the rest, as the Watcher of the Watchmen. That is if I'm interpreting her words right

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@RealSlimCAvery

This actually occurred to me the first time I read the book. It sort of followed from the thought: "damn, the only thing Veidt loves is that cat."

But I'm a terrible person.

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"Under no circumstances should anyone encourage the ordinary person to be funny."
--Bob Mackey

I think Veidt is just the super-rich male version of a creepy cat lady...he just has one giant cat instead of 83 regular-sized ones.

Either that, or he's a one-man Siegfried and Roy...

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"The light is taking me to pieces, and I'm afraid I just blue myself."

Yeah I don't really think it's likely that he's boning his cat. That's a little too creepy even for Veidt.

I do think Bubastis is the only living thing the man loves, though. He was more upset about blasting her to bits than he was about what he did to New York.

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"Under no circumstances should anyone encourage the ordinary person to be funny."
--Bob Mackey

Even Hitler loved his dog (and look what he did to it...)

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"Because there is good and there is evil, and evil must be punished. Even in the face of Armageddon I shall not compromise in this."

Well, that's not exactly parallel, either. Hitler had friends besides his dog. Veidt seemed to have a lot of colleagues, employees, servants--but not really friends so much. Just Bubastis. I just think it's a little funny and a little sad (and really the more I probe into this book, the more I feel a bizarre kind of sympathy for Veidt).

An aside: Though I'm no fan of Hitler, he had a good reason to kill his dog (and all the other pets in the bunker). If I knew that people with malicious intent toward me were closing in, I'd kill my pets, too. There are thousands of horrible, evil things Hitler did that he deserves to be held accountable for, but that's not one of them.

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"Under no circumstances should anyone encourage the ordinary person to be funny."
--Bob Mackey

But Veidt did have 3 very close friends, his counsel, the 3 Asians (pacific islanders??). I don't remember where they were from, but he felt bad having to kill them to keep the secret right?

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You can never say never and never say always.

Hitler had to kill his dog -- it had no nose.

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"The light is taking me to pieces, and I'm afraid I just blue myself."

I thought they were manservants. Basically employees who assisted him and acted as his personal groupies.

Honestly I thought he seemed very cold (no pun intended) about killing them.

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"Under no circumstances should anyone encourage the ordinary person to be funny."
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Actually, according to the "Doug Roth" interview at the end of Chapter XI, they were former Vietcong soldiers who Veidt took in following VVN-Day, because the postwar Vietnamese regime would've undoubtedly had them killed. Moore (as Roth) points out that the three men were very warm towards Veidt not only for saving their lives, but also for his seemingly honest camaraderie in relation to them. (Closer to the subject of the thread, I should point out that I don't think Veidt was keeping them around as his personal boy-toys...)

I think Veidt did have a very real personal attachment to his servants, but that was trumped by what he viewed as his larger mission. We are meant to see that Veidt was so wrapped up in his plan that he would even kill his best friends to prevent the truth about his pax cephalopoda from somehow getting out.

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"The light is taking me to pieces, and I'm afraid I just blue myself."

This thread is so fucked up.

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This is truly a madhouse. And I'm the lunatic running it. I've spent three years wondering if I should be proud or ashamed.

Like Bubastis every thursday night... sorry, I had to say it

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@RealSlimCAvery

I think Veidt was celibate since the meeting of Crimebusters when he started working on the answer, and he probably only found "release" again at the conclusion of his plot.

I dunno, I think it is kind of implied that Veidt has relationships with his three guys.

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I didn't see any billiard table....

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Suppose Veidt was the secret benefactor behind the rise of Two Live Crew?