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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:50 pm 
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Well, seems that HBO is no longer interested in making a Preacher adaption, but it looks like it might make it to the silver screen after all...

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Just as fans were slowly accepting the fact that “Preacher” — Garth Ennis and Steve Dillion’s highly-controversial comic series that took on everything from organized religion to shady government agencies — was DOA at HBO, along comes news that the option has once again been picked up, this time by Columbia Pictures, who intends to make the property into a full-length feature film. A “Preacher Feature,” if you will (ba-dum-dum!).

According to The Hollywood Reporter, Columbia has picked up the option and pegged Sam Mendes to direct. Neal Moritz’s Original Films banner will produce alongside Kickstart Prods.’ Jason Netter.

“Preacher,” a longtime member of the “Impossible to Film” club (along with former member, “Watchmen”) has had a storied history of big studios picking up the option and quickly discovering that, for various reasons, the property was either too epic or too violent for film. Mark Steven Johnson, who’d been rumored to be onboard as director of the HBO series, claimed HBO execs were concerned about the over-the-top brutality of the original comic series and asked it to be toned down, to which Johnson disagreed.
Kevin Smith’s View Askew got as far as the casting stage (with James Marsden rumored to play the lead role of Rev. Jesse Custer) until the deal inevitably fell through.

Currently, there are no screenwriters attached to the project, but according to THR, Mendes — who already has some geek-cred under his belt with his work on 2002’s “Road to Perdition” — will be on the prowl for potential writers as he wraps up post-production on “Revolutionary Road,” starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet.


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I quite liked Road to Perdition and really enjoyed Jarhead, fingers crossed he will be able to make a good adaption. Having said that, I still don't know how you could transfer something like Preacher to a film without changing it significantly or really cutting it's guts out.

The main problems are the very controversial nature of the story, the brutal violence, swearing and the like, and the downright bizarre characters like Arseface, who work fantastic in the comic, but are going to be very hard to replicate.

Not to mention they will almost certainly have to cut out some important stuff to make it a viable length, Jesse's father, New Orleans, Saint of Killers' history etc.

I remain cautiously optimistic...


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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
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yeah it will be hard very hard imo watchmen is more adaptable than preacher


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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
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Why not just make it a trilogy?
That way they could fit more in without so much compression needed, especially if they go for the 2hrs 30mins or so running time for each part.

As for the controversy, they'll obviously make it R rated.
Anything less and it won't really be "Preacher".

We know full well the controversy that will be generated from it will serve to increase interest, which will translate into ticket sales. Studio executives are not above purposefully using such things to make $$$ after all ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
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Lord Ruthven wrote:
Why not just make it a trilogy?
That way they could fit more in without so much compression needed, especially if they go for the 2hrs 30mins or so running time for each part.

As for the controversy, they'll obviously make it R rated.
Anything less and it won't really be "Preacher".

We know full well the controversy that will be generated from it will serve to increase interest, which will translate into ticket sales. Studio executives are not above purposefully using such things to make $$$ after all ;)


I trilogy would be great IMO, I think you could fit in most of hte story with a good trilogy, having about 20 issues covered in each movie maybe, it could definitely work.

The problem is, I doubt a Studio would be willing to put up the money for a Trilogy for something like Preacher. It would be more expensive for one thing, and the problem is, that the trilogy would really hinge on the success of the first film. It would be very bad news if the first movie flopped for example.


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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
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They could make the first film in the trilogy as self-contained as possible, while leaving enough to carry on into the possible sequel.

Star Wars: A New Hope, for example.

All the studio has to do is front up the cash for the first film, but give the talent involved an option on a 3 film deal.

Preacher covers a number of genres: road movie, supernatural, western, horror, etc. It can appeal to fans of all those genres so even though it would be R-rated, with the right marketing, it could maximise it's box office potential far more than simply being aimed at just western fans or just supernatural movie fans.

I'm interested in seeing how WB handle the Jonah Hex film as that can give some insight into how they'll manage Preacher.

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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
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^good point. I find it hard to make a self contained Preacher though, the story just doesn't feel complete at all until he's able to find God., which they can't really do in just the first film. I'm sure with a bit of work they could figure it out though, fingers crossed they have the same Idea that you did!


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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
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^good point. I find it hard to make a self contained Preacher though, the story just doesn't feel complete at all until he's able to find God., which they can't really do in just the first film. I'm sure with a bit of work they could figure it out though, fingers crossed they have the same Idea that you did!


That's why I thought of structuring it like the original Star Wars trilogy. By leaving a number of things unresolved at the end of the first film it is hopeful fans and general movie-going audiences will want to see what happens next. That way the demand should be enough that the studio would genuinely look at continuing the trilogy. If the studio plays it right they would create enough of a demand themselves - the cliff hangers and unresolved situations would be begging to be taken to their logical conclusions.

I'm with you and hoping that it gets the trilogy treatment.

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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
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I liked Preacher at the time, but in retrospect I'm not as fond of it. Garth Ennis's over-the-top style is just not for me. I like a little subtlety in my reading. I consider Ennis, much like Frank Miller, to be sort of a one-trick pony. It's all blood, sex, and swearing all the time, and it seems to me it's all for shock value.

My favorite comic dealing with religious themes is Mike Cary's Lucifer. A brilliant story, and it had one of the most satisfying resolutions of any epic-length tale I've ever read. Unsatisfying endings are a pet peave of mine, and it seems like the longer and more complex the story, the less satisfying an ending the author comes up with. Somewhat of a problem with Preacher; not so with Lucifer.


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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
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Hmm, I don't know if I would call Ennis a one-trick Pony. All his work on Punisher for example is fantastic, I really love his MAX series.

I agree he does a lot of stuff over-the-top, but thats kind of his style, and underneath all of it, he made some wonderful characters in Preacher, with their own complex history and personalities.


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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
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they should cast Walton Goggins (The Shield) for Jesse


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 Post subject: Preacher!
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[NOTE: This post started its own thread before I merged it here. --"Curiosity Inc."]

I just started reading this, and have just finished volume 2. I was interested in knowing what you people thought about it, especially the idea of an Irish man writing with American (particularly Texan) voices. So far I think Garth Ennis has been quite successful with his characterizations, but then I'm only at the start of the series.

Any thoughts?


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 Post subject: Re: Preacher!
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I haven't finished the first volume yet, but only because I've been busy with other things. I think that Ennis is usually pretty accurate with the American voices, but on those rare instances when he's off, it's obvious. As for the series itself, I think it's incredible. Definitely an interesting and subversive take on religion - plus, Cassidy is kickass.

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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
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Alrght, I'm reading preacher and one thing has kept bugging me, The SoK killed Satan, and he kills God... but in volume 1 he shoots cassady, who heals himselfand is okay.

Honestly are we expeted to believe that Cassady has a stronger healing factor than a fallen angel and the father of all creation?

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Maybe it's because Cassady's already dead (or undead)?

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Curiosity Inc. wrote:
Maybe it's because Cassady's already dead (or undead)?


Hmmm, that could work, but that has been bugging me as the only flaw of the series so far, that Cassady (from that scene only) is implied to be stronger than Satan and God, which is kind of hard to believe that a vampire would be that powerful

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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
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they should cast Walton Goggins (The Shield) for Jesse


This.

Is an awesome casting choice, as a fan of The Shield, I approve.

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they should cast Walton Goggins (The Shield) for Jesse


This.

Is an awesome casting choice, as a fan of The Shield, I approve.


I'm been thinking for a little while that Timothy Olyphant could be a good Jesse.

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I'm been thinking for a little while that Timothy Olyphant could be a good Jesse.


Great choice as well, though nobody really has THE southern accent that Walton Goggins has, still, Olyphant has a lot of charisma, and has worked in very similar productions before, he'd be a good choice for the role.

As for Cassidy ? This fucker right here:

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Walton Goggings isn't leading man material.

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 Post subject: Re: Preacher
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t3cii wrote:
Walton Goggings isn't leading man material.


Take it back :x !

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