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Has anyone ever read Marvels? Or Ruins? Awesome oil-based paint style comic from the mid/late 90's. DEFINITELY worth checking out.

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He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you...

Marvels is an absolute classic. A great look at the early Marvel Universe, with stunning art by Alex Ross.

Ruins is equally as classic, in a wholly other way. Very dark, very fun. A lot of books say "This is what superheroes would be like if they were in the real world," but Ruins is one of the few that I feel actually delivers on that claim.

J

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I'm used to going out at three in the morning and doing something stupid.

I'm currently reading "The Dark Phoenix Saga" for the first time. It's really cool and I can see why it was so monumental back in the day.

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I'm definitely going to have to get Marvels soon. I love Busiek & Ross' Astro City, so I've been meaning to check that out for ages. And Ruins sounds interesting as well. Would I be better of reading Marvels first or does Ruins stand alone?

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Someone must have been telling lies about Walter K.

DEFINITELY read Marvels first. If I'm not mistaken, Ruins takes place after Marvels.

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He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you...

Yeah I've just looked it up on Wikipedia, it does seem to be a sequel of sorts. Thanks anyway

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Someone must have been telling lies about Walter K.

I'm re-reading Watchmen again and I've been slowly finishing When Will Jesus Bring The Pork Chops? by George Carlin.

Coraline

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DEFINITELY read Marvels before Ruins.

Ruins isn't exactly a sequel, but it's an alternate look at the MU in exactly the same vein. Ruins can be appreciated without Marvels, but it's very much a dark mirror of Marvels.

J

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I'm used to going out at three in the morning and doing something stupid.

I just finished up the Hobbit, and and now tackling the LOTR Trilogy. I'm embarrassed to admit that I've never read these books, but I'm quickly remedying that mistake

Also, if anyone's ever read Raymond E. Feist's Riftwar Saga (and any of the other books after that), they put out two trade paperbacks of the story of Magician (the first two books of the Riftwar Saga) as a COMIC. The art's not half bad, either

Regardless, if anyone's interested in excellent classic fantasy, read these books. Please. I can't emphasize enough how great this entire series is. The first book was written in 1982 and the dude's STILL GOING. Seeing characters as children, adventuring, growing old, and fading in the obscuring of myth and legend speaks for itself in terms of longevity of these books.

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He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you...

i read the hobbit when i was about 13 and was very underwhelmed, then i tried LOTR and strained myself to read 1/4 of fellowship before giving up out of complete boredom.
but then again, i always get bored by the classics, i gave up on the dune saga half way through children of dune out of boredom.
and don't say i'm just a quitter because they are the only 2 books i've ever given up on, and i read quite a lot.

edit: almost forgot i'm between GN's at the moment, but novel wise i am currently reading a compilation of HP Lovecraft (Call of Cthulu and others) and the Temporal Void, by Peter F Hamilton (<you should check him out if you like epic sci-fi, he's like the ian banks of the 21st century)

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We're all actors, Laurie. I'm just an actor who read the script.

I have to read Brave New World for school, but it actually intregues (fuck spelling) me so I'm down with that

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Akira, Nausicaa and the Valley of the Wind, Fell, Fables, Batgirl, World War Hulk, and Green Lantern Corps.

Just finished the last collection of Morrison's Invisibles.



Strange, but very rewarding. Been quite a ride!

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You were too probably too young for them, though 'The Hobbit' is supposedly a children's book. It doesn't read like one. The next three books... the writing can be dense and put some people off, but there is some beautiful prose within the trilogy, sometimes reaching the heights of the folkloric sources that are it's imspiration.

I'm halfway through the first half of 'The Book Of The New Sun' by Gene Wolf, which means I have read 'The Shadow Of The Torturer', and am just into 'The Claw Of The Conciliator'. Great writing, I love the fact the narrator isn't to be trusted. Neil Gaiman called it the best SF novel of the last century, and he may be right I reckon.

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...evidently chicken-town.

i'm sure you're right, i just don't see much point in trying to read it again, i wasn't even much a fan of the movies, and if i can't enjoy the movies how am i suopposed to enjoy the books, for prose i'd rather just read some Dan Simmons.

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We're all actors, Laurie. I'm just an actor who read the script.

I guess you're either into that slow-paced (some might say old-fashioned), dense writing, or you're not. I originally tried to read 'The Hobbit' when I was about 15 and thought "Meh, dwarves n' pixies, sod off". I was reading a lot of space-based sci-fi at the time, and found it too fairy-tale-ish.
Years later picked up the trilogy and saw so much more there that I had missed because I was unfamiliar with European myths and legends, epic poems and the like. Also my tastes changed as I got older I guess. There are many parallels to draw between the film adaptations of 'Watchmen' and LOTR of course. A rabid, die-hard fanbase etc.
I think Znyder and co. learned a big lesson from Jackson, namely to include the fan-base as much as possible via the web and open up channels of communication and feedback that way. LOTR was really the first production to do that with the onering.net, and they reversed what was turning into a major backlash before the first films release.

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...evidently chicken-town.

Currently reading: nothing

I like to buy my books, but I ain't got no $$$.

Just got Kingdom Come in the mail, along with my Rorschach fig. Hopefully it'll bve good, although I'm not very familiar with DC characters...hopefully that won't be too much of a problem...

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I don't think that will be a problem. I wasn't too familiar with DC when I read it and I still enjoyed it.

Keep an eye out early on for some Watchmen references as well as a cameo from a familiar face!

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