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All the characters in the watchmen universe have complicated and detailed backrounds. Is there one character who needed a little bit more detail, who'd it be, and what was he/or she missing.

Keene. You know, of the Keene Act?

Was Keene a senator, a governor, some disgruntled cop who set the wheels in motion? Male, female?

There's a story there, I'm sure of it.

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We never really knew too much about the pregnant women blake guns down, perhaps its not needed, a backround for that character might make that scene harder to watch when the movie comes out.

I agree , It would have been interesting to know more about how the keene act go it's name.

Maybe Snyder will address the keene thing in the movie.

Dan Dreiberg

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Curiosity, Keene was a senator, it says so in Chapter IV, page 23, panel 1.

Episode I, Page 1, Panel 3... there is a shopkeeper with an apron hosing blood off the sidewalk. When a certain redheaded vagrant tracks through the blood and leaves bloody footprints down the sidewalk, rudely creating more work. We can see that the shopkeeper is pissed and likely screaming an insult at Mr. Kovacs.

In Panel 4, the shopkeeper gives Mr. Kovacs the finger.

I think the character of the shopkeeper is woefully underdeveloped. Obviously, he had more on his mind than a puddle of blood and a stray vagrant. What was REALLY bothering him that day? A woman? His dog die (dead dog in alley??) What's his story? I'd really like to know where he was born and how he spent/misspent his youth. Where did he go to school? Mayhaps, he is a student still. How old is he? It is difficult to tell.

I'd like to know his favorite color, tv show, and social security number as well so that I can really feel like the character is well-rounded. If only Moore hadn't shortchanged his adoring fans so.

And, hi, StevenJared. Welcome.

Hooded Justice and the Comedian (as far as backstory).

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Hurm. Do I detect sarcasm? Surely that couldn't be.

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"Heard them Walthers like to jump some" "As will you, with one in your elbow."

Welcome aboard, StevenJared. Ha ha, Vynson.

And okay, Keene was a senator. Still, I wish we could've gotten a bit more detail about Keene and the Keene Act. It's such an important part of the graphic novel and we know so little about how it came about.

Of course, Sam Hamm tried to answer that in his attempt at a screenplay adaptation, and that didn't turn out so well.

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A thread without sarcasm is like a woman without freckles and a woman without freckles, as Warren Murphy and Richard Sapir informed us, is like a night without stars.

Thanks for the welcome, Vynson and Curiousity. All kidding and sarcasm aside, I think Bourquin and Fine could have their partnership and backstory fleshed out. A hard-hitting crime drama about life on the streets of Watchmen-World New York would be pretty cool.

Here's a free lesson for all the young male Watchmen fans out there. If a woman has freckles on her face, that's fine, but when on ummm, other parts (and they don't have freckles on their face), RUN. Run and get a bottle of Listerine and an anti-bacterial soap.

That said, Hooded Justice deserves not just an expanded back-story, but also more analysis. Here's the guy that is the underlying catalyst in the Watchmen universe, yet almost nothing is known about him. What exactly encouraged this man to dress up like a loon and start knocking out thugs and criminals? What influences made this man think of doing this in a world where the idea of a "super hero" did not exist before he came along? What was he out to prove to the world and/or himself?

Further, what did he think of the other heroes who comprised the Minutemen? Was he shocked that others actually followed in his vigilante footsteps, flattered, or both? What did they really thing of HJ, who seemed like an outsider? Did a young Blake actually look up to HJ at one point, or maybe even was part of his inspiration to become a costumed adventurer as well? If this occurred, did Blake become cynical after he ascertained that HJ simply was in it for sadistic purposes (Blake's view) versus a more pure crime-fighting reasoning? Was HJ himself shocked to learn that he was viewed like this by Blake, and if so, why? And why the disdain and lack of compassion for Sally when she was attacked by Blake? What was their relationship like?



As Kelly Bundy once said, "The mind wobbles."

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I'm pretty sure there's also some added backstory to HJ in the RPG - but I haven't read that. If someone could summarize it, that'd be great.

But great post, waylayer -- I've wondered the same things.

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In the works. I purchased all of the roleplaying suppliments. I will be getting as much of that material online as is legally allowed.

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Too overly-obvious and simple of an explanation, in my opinion. I am not interested in why he chose a hood versus a corset and panty hose combination for his outfit. I'm more interested in the psychology/background of becoming the first wacko crime fighter versus his fashion origin. But then again that's why I prefer the History Channel over E!.



Hold on... doing that now... clown rape... naked blue guy... impotent owl-man...
Wow, reading this quickly I'd say this was more a fetish mag than a comic book. OK it's read again.

So what have I discovered upon my 2 minute world-record Watchmen reading? We have a single line from Blake that was said after he had just had his nose smashed, and we have a letter from Sally's agent concerning HJ's "extracurricular activities." Neither addresses HJ's views on fighting crime, nor does anyone outside of Blake ever imply that HJ is only into crime fighting for a sadistic thrill. My point stands.

It'll be interesting to read the RPG stuff to see what it adds (if anything).

Go Giants!

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-Bill Watterson

Oh, the HORROR!!! My poor virgin EYES!!!

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Bev... Hopefully even us old bastards have a bit of virginity left in our eyes. The ability to see in new ways is integral to life.

Thanks for having a sense of humor.

Moore wrote a complete story for certain characters: however, there is still lots of room left for entirely new and different stories that don't have to be just 'implied', as evidenced by the stuff in the RPG - they were just never told. It's probably likely that Moore has some idea how all this stuff went down, and just didn't share it with us - I'm sure if he ever did, it would be fantastic, and not detrimental to Watchmen at all.

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