Curiosity Inc. wrote:
You're playing a dangerous game, dreiberg.
Is that a threat sir? Pistols at dawn, I say.
Curiosity Inc. wrote:
All we have for evidence is the graphic novel, so we have to go with what the graphic novel purports is true. Soon as you start denying that, all of everyone's arguments go out the window.
I'm not, as far as I know, "throwing out anything". If you've carefully read what I've posted, you'll see I'm strictly using the novel to back up my case. I have a different interpretation than yours, and am defending it.
If anything, I'm perplexed by your defense of a mass murderer. Maybe you've been taken in by his propaganda
Seriously though, I think this is exactly the kind of discussion Moore intended to generate. What's moral? How do you know? It depends on the framework of your experience. Is it moral to murder 3 million to save 5 billion? If so, under what circumstances?
Curiosity Inc. wrote:
If you want more evidence of Veidt's donations to charity, check out V.17.4, where Bernie the Senior clearly states that Veidt did charity work.
Bernie doesn't exactly give examples of this, does he? As a news vendor, he should've been able to give us at least one. I suspect he's only repeating Adrian's PR.
I'll grant he gave his original fortune to charity, but that was almost 25 years before 1985.
Curiosity Inc. wrote:
So, Veidt must have done a considerable amount of crime-fighting to build up such a reputation... even before he set his sights on forcing world peace.
Unlike the other characters, whom we see actually doing pages and page of "heroic deeds", Veidt perhaps two frames demonstrating what he's purported to do best. The rest is text reported by other characters. You could say his exploits are
legendary. What I'm saying is that while there's alot of TALK about Veid't accomplishments, the EVIDENCE suggests that his biggest and most noticeable accomplishment is his vast fortune.
Curiosity Inc. wrote:
So your "Big Brother" hypothesis is also incorrect. He was never out to control anyone, just to eradicate their more evil nature. And to do that, he eventually fought fire with fire.
Let's see, his name or image is everywhere just as in 1984. He's watching everything (and sometimes everyone) just like, .. well..., you know. Think again. No, he was never out to control anybody, but like the character in
Marooned, he set upon a noble task based on an incorrect assumption. Like this character, Veidt performed a horrendous deed aimed at those he purported to loved and in doing so became that which he despised.